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re: Game of Thrones S6:E3 "Oathbreaker" Bookreader Thread

Posted on 5/5/16 at 12:30 pm to
Posted by CockHolliday
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Posted on 5/5/16 at 12:30 pm to
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I think she has as much hate and spite as Cersei does. Cat is just sane while Cersei has always been batshit crazy. Just a real "holier than thou" bitch.


And Ned wasn't giving her any, while Cersei was doing her best to outdo any Kings Landing whore.
Posted by Jester
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Posted on 5/5/16 at 12:39 pm to
Posted by kingbob
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Posted on 5/5/16 at 12:41 pm to
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Where do you think the red door is with the lemon tree?


It's in Dorne, at Starfall! Dorne is where all of the citrus is grown in Westeros! Dany is Ned and Ashara Dayne's daughter!
Posted by Methuselah
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Posted on 5/5/16 at 12:43 pm to
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I think she has as much hate and spite as Cersei does. Cat is just sane while Cersei has always been batshit crazy. Just a real "holier than thou" bitch.

They are definitely two sides of the same bitch coin. Both put not only their love for but also their ambitions for their kids ahead of the good of the realm. And did it in piss poor ways.

- On another note, if it turns out that Rickon IS indeed the "gift" to Ramsey, I really hope that somehow Shaggy Dog gets to Sansa. It always seemed to me that the Stark kids who didn't stick close to their Direwolves were in for some bad stuff - Robb locked up Greywind right before the Red Wedding. Sansa's infatuation with Joffrey led to Lady's death. Arya had to send Nymeria away to keep her from being killed and she's been through the ringer and more.

Jon has kept Ghost pretty close but didn't have him nearby when he was stabbed. I'm not sure where Summer is in relation to Bran but I think he made the trip to the far North. And who knows what Rickon and Shaggy Dog have been up to.

If Rickon does get betrayed to Ramsey it would be some solace if Shaggy Dog got away and could be some sort of a substitute for Lady for Sansa.
Posted by ladytiger118
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Posted on 5/5/16 at 12:45 pm to
I want to see Ramsey get eaten by the four remaining dire wolves.
Posted by Cosmo
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Posted on 5/5/16 at 12:47 pm to
Id like him to end like meryn trant

Plus dick cut off and fed to hounds.
Posted by jrodLSUke
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Posted on 5/5/16 at 2:02 pm to
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So do we ever get another Benjen appearance in the show?

Yes, I'm certain of it. Benjen has been absent from the story for the same reason that H. Reed has been absent. They both know who Jon's parents are. There is no way that Benjen could show up at the wall and not have that conversation with Jon after all that has occurred.
Posted by kingbob
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Posted on 5/5/16 at 2:08 pm to
You know, unless he shows up as a wight
Posted by Esquire
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Posted on 5/5/16 at 2:09 pm to
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Yes, I'm certain of it. Benjen has been absent from the story for the same reason that H. Reed has been absent. They both know who Jon's parents are. There is no way that Benjen could show up at the wall and not have that conversation with Jon after all that has occurred.


I'm still pissed they used Benjen to trick Jon because it tricked me even more. Especially with the "previously on GOT" part where it showed Benjen again. That is what stopped me from watching that part of the episodes ever again.
Posted by Papercutninja
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Posted on 5/5/16 at 2:38 pm to
Jon is a traditional Northern name shared by a few of the Old Kings of Winter from before the landing of Aegon the Conqueror.
Posted by Team Vote
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Posted on 5/5/16 at 2:49 pm to
If Benjen is seen again in the show, it will be with Bran and Meera, not Jon IMO
Posted by Saskwatch
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Posted on 5/5/16 at 3:17 pm to
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If Benjen is seen again in the show, it will be with Bran and Meera, not Jon IMO


If Benjen = Cold Hands that would be most excellent
Posted by Ace Midnight
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Posted on 5/5/16 at 3:22 pm to
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If Benjen = Cold Hands that would be most excellent


A. Cold Hands isn't on the show (yet).

2. Martin already confirmed Benjen isn't Cold Hands.

Theories abound, of course. I'm warming up to the Coldhands is Duncan the Tall theory. Leaf said they killed him long ago, after all.
This post was edited on 5/5/16 at 3:23 pm
Posted by CBandits82
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Posted on 5/5/16 at 3:22 pm to
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I'm not going to lie, I'm worried about this scene. This scene combines crucial plot information with a lot of different emotions. It will require some high quality acting.


It's the best scene in the entire thing.

I hope they nail it.
I can't fricking wait for Sunday.
Posted by LSUGrad00
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Posted on 5/5/16 at 3:25 pm to
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Benjen = Cold Hands


GRRM's editor asked him this question in the margins of one of his early drafts of ADWD. The draft was on display at Texas A&M's library and someone snapped a photo.

HERE BE SPOILERS...
Posted by Byron Bojangles III
Member since Nov 2012
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Posted on 5/5/16 at 5:12 pm to
SPOILERS BECAUSE JUST IN CASE.

Kit talks about Jon waking up.










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At first, I was worried that he’ll wake up and he’s the same, back to normal — then there’s no point in that death,. He needs to change. There’s a brilliant line when Melisandre asks: ‘What did you see?’ And he says: ‘Nothing, there was nothing at all.’ That cuts right to our deepest fear, that there’s nothing after death. And that’s the most important line in the whole season for me. Jon’s never been afraid of death, and that’s made him a strong and honorable person. He realizes something about his life now: He has to live it, because that’s all there is. He’s been over the line and there’s nothing there. And that changes him. It literally puts the fear of god into him. He’s seen oblivion and that’s got to change somebody in the most fundamental way there is. He doesn’t want to die ever again. But if he does, he doesn’t want to be brought back.


LINK
Posted by Azazello
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Posted on 5/5/16 at 6:03 pm to
Posted by ohiovol
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Posted on 5/5/16 at 7:04 pm to
That makes sense. Didn't Melisandre ask Beric and he gave her a similar answer?
Posted by Byron Bojangles III
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Posted on 5/5/16 at 7:13 pm to
Not sure but where does the Lord of Light exist if Jon saw nothing?
Posted by wildtigercat93
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Posted on 5/5/16 at 7:19 pm to
You could either see it as JON was in purgatory because the Lord of Light wasn't done with him, or that it proves the Lotd of light has been nothing more than black magic this whole time
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