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re: Game of Thrones S6 E8 "No One" (Bookreader Thread) NO SPOILERS

Posted on 6/8/16 at 1:09 pm to
Posted by Bamatab
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Posted on 6/8/16 at 1:09 pm to
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I don't get how jaquen could have arya's face if her face is still attached to her body.

Last season when Jaquen drank the poison because Arya killed Meryn Trant, and she started pulling off his faces, hers was one of the faces the dead guy was wearing. But that whole sequence was confusing as heck.
Posted by TigerFanInSouthland
Louisiana
Member since Aug 2012
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Posted on 6/8/16 at 1:09 pm to
I wonder if they can only use the faces of the people that were marked and killed? I know jaqen said "either way, a face must be added to the wall" but I mean a lot of people believe that he took the stabbing. So that would mean that you didn't necessarily need to be killed in order to have someone else wear your face.

And also, she's already seen her face in the hall.
This post was edited on 6/8/16 at 1:11 pm
Posted by blueboy
Member since Apr 2006
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Posted on 6/8/16 at 1:10 pm to
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maybe ... but the system of magic in place that they have been using thus far appears to imply that a face must be in the hall for the faceless men to use it.
The dead guy in the S5 finale had Jaquen's face and that one was not in the hall.
Posted by Bamatab
Member since Jan 2013
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Posted on 6/8/16 at 1:11 pm to
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The dead guy in the S5 finale had Jaquen's face and that one was not in the hall.

Like I said above, he also had Arya's face. But again, that whole sequence was crazy. I don't know how much of that was supposed to be real or not.
This post was edited on 6/8/16 at 1:13 pm
Posted by hg
Member since Jun 2009
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Posted on 6/8/16 at 1:12 pm to
I for one welcome our new LSH overlord.
Posted by Sneaky__Sally
Member since Jul 2015
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Posted on 6/8/16 at 1:13 pm to
Oh well i wonder how they got in there then, I always assumed it was full members and dead people that they had faces for.

-also, full disclosure, i haven't read the last book if any of it is explained in there (although i basically know what all goes down from wikipedia - spoilers don't really bother me). I decided I only read completed fantasy series since the wait between books can often be so long.
This post was edited on 6/8/16 at 1:17 pm
Posted by Methuselah
On da Riva
Member since Jan 2005
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Posted on 6/8/16 at 1:16 pm to
Just a suggestion. But you might want to include a "no spoilers" phrase in your subject. Otherwise there tend to be squabbles about people bringing alleged spoilers in.

Oh, and I thought we welcomed to Hodors in here if they want to visit. Some are even reasonable.
Posted by TigerFanInSouthland
Louisiana
Member since Aug 2012
28065 posts
Posted on 6/8/16 at 1:20 pm to
The book says that she hangs every Frey, Lannister, and Bolton? that she comes across.

Two questions: 1- do you think she can differentiate between the "good" Lannisters (i.e. Jaime and Tyrion) and the bad (Cersei)?

2- what about the Hound/gravedigger?
Posted by TigerFanInSouthland
Louisiana
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Posted on 6/8/16 at 1:21 pm to
You are right, I will fix it.
Posted by hg
Member since Jun 2009
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Posted on 6/8/16 at 1:22 pm to
As much as I would love to see LSH in the show, hasn't way too much time gone by for her to make an appearance?
Posted by OMLandshark
Member since Apr 2009
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Posted on 6/8/16 at 1:24 pm to
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1- do you think she can differentiate between the "good" Lannisters (i.e. Jaime and Tyrion) and the bad (Cersei)?


I'm pretty sure she'd kill both of them.

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2- what about the Hound/gravedigger?


She might let the Hound live, I think it would depend on her mood. He's protected her children, but also abducted Arya from where Cat ended up. So she might be pissed at him over that. But the Brotherhood were plotting to do the same thing, so I think she'd spare the Hound.
Posted by TigerFanInSouthland
Louisiana
Member since Aug 2012
28065 posts
Posted on 6/8/16 at 1:54 pm to
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much as I would love to see LSH in the show, hasn't way too much time gone by for her to make an appearance?


No, not really. I mean everything is setting up to where she came back into the books with her meeting back up with Brienne.
Posted by Sid in Lakeshore
Member since Oct 2008
41956 posts
Posted on 6/8/16 at 1:54 pm to
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I'm pretty sure she'd kill both of them.


Agreed. Jamie has got to be #1 on her list considering Roose Bolton's quote at the Red Wedding.

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She might let the Hound live, I think it would depend on her mood. He's protected her children,


I think she is in Kill mode. The hound protected Joeffry and murdered many along the way.... Not sure she is even aware of the way he protected Arya and Sansa.

Good and Bad is all a matter of perspective.
Posted by TigerFanInSouthland
Louisiana
Member since Aug 2012
28065 posts
Posted on 6/8/16 at 1:59 pm to
Well when everybody in the world hates you (Cersei) I would suspect that you are actually bad.
Posted by blueboy
Member since Apr 2006
62745 posts
Posted on 6/8/16 at 2:08 pm to
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I don't know how much of that was supposed to be real or not.
Of course it was supposed to be real.
Posted by RadBro
Member since Aug 2012
973 posts
Posted on 6/8/16 at 2:30 pm to
I've been doing a bit of research on the popular theories and such.

I came across the HS=HR theory, and that got me to thinking:

Do you all think Howland Reed (assuming HS=/=HR) will come to the help of Jon in the North when he goes to take Winterfell? Seems as though that could be a possible plot twist.
Posted by Bamatab
Member since Jan 2013
16225 posts
Posted on 6/8/16 at 2:31 pm to
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Of course it was supposed to be real.

But how could the guy that drank the poison have Arya's face? They've shown Jaqen cutting the faces off of people in order to make usable faces, yet Arya still has her face (I'm assuming). If it was supposed to be real, and not some sort of hallucination, then it made no sense as to how the guy got Arya's face.
Posted by blueboy
Member since Apr 2006
62745 posts
Posted on 6/8/16 at 2:45 pm to
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If it was supposed to be real, and not some sort of hallucination, then it made no sense as to how the guy got Arya's face.
I just don't think the show gives a shite about those confinements. For whatever symbolic or dramatic reason, they wanted Arya and Jaquen's face on the dead man, possibly to express the idea that Arya's character is being taught that all people are just faces waiting for death. Who knows, but I am certain there will be no big reveal that this particular scene was all just an hallucination.
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Do you all think Howland Reed (assuming HS=/=HR) will come to the help of Jon in the North when he goes to take Winterfell? Seems as though that could be a possible plot twist.
I don't know that the Crannogmen have a substantial military force. I think they're just sneaky bastards with poison darts. There was no Reed contingent with Robb when he was fighting the Lannisters.
Posted by SoFresh
New Orleans
Member since May 2010
3076 posts
Posted on 6/8/16 at 2:50 pm to
Lancel is definitely dying in 6.8 though, right? No way he gets out of there alive with Robert Strong going HAM.

I've got a Death Pool to win at the office... I had Edmure Tully last week and almost took it home
This post was edited on 6/8/16 at 2:51 pm
Posted by P-Dawg
Atlanta
Member since Sep 2012
2004 posts
Posted on 6/8/16 at 2:52 pm to
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How did the dragons get freed though? I know Tyrion took the chains off but I didn't see an opening for them to fly out.


IIRC, Tyrion left the door to the cavern open. The dragons have grown, but not nearly to Drogon's size. I think they could still manage through the door.
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