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re: Game of Thrones S4:E9: "The Watchers on the Wall", HODORS ONLY (no readers)

Posted on 6/10/14 at 1:44 pm to
Posted by wildtigercat93
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Posted on 6/10/14 at 1:44 pm to
I think Castle black had its finale. I don't expect to see any of them until next season
Posted by Ace Midnight
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Posted on 6/10/14 at 1:49 pm to
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I don't expect to see any of them until next season


With an entire episode devoted them this week this is possible. On the other hand a brief, 3 minute set up for next season is also possible. I honestly can't imagine much more than that, though.
Posted by jiffyjohnson
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Posted on 6/10/14 at 1:49 pm to
with jon talking to mance in the preview for next week i wouldnt rule it out.
Posted by wildtigercat93
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Posted on 6/10/14 at 1:50 pm to
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With an entire episode devoted them this week this is possible. On the other hand a brief, 3 minute set up for next season is also possible. I honestly can't imagine much more than that, though.


There's not much to set up for next season though. We know where Jon is going and that's all that's really going to matter next season from castle black
Posted by wildtigercat93
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Posted on 6/10/14 at 1:51 pm to
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with jon talking to mance in the preview for next week i wouldnt rule it out.


Ah well I didn't watch the preview. I am wrong then
Posted by The_Joker
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Posted on 6/10/14 at 1:52 pm to
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I think Castle black had its finale. I don't expect to see any of them until next season


Jon and Mance are both in the Ep 10 preview
Posted by Ace Midnight
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Posted on 6/10/14 at 1:52 pm to
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We know where Jon is going and that's all that's really going to matter next season from castle black


Yeah - I forgot the previews about him and Mance - that may be all we see from up there - not Castle Black or the wall.

But, then there is also Stannis and Davos - where are they headed? Speculation is The Wall - but, if so, that may wait until next season as well.
Posted by Epic Cajun
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Posted on 6/10/14 at 1:53 pm to
Sadly it'll probably be Tyrion. At this point I'll be more surprised if he doesn't die. I feel like they've pretty much guided us toward his imminent death, I've ready come to terms with it
Posted by Ace Midnight
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Posted on 6/10/14 at 1:59 pm to
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Sadly it'll probably be Tyrion. At this point I'll be more surprised if he doesn't die. I feel like they've pretty much guided us toward his imminent death, I've ready come to terms with it


Tyrion is THE show in KL - so, I expect a lot of time on that. He's become a far more significant and dynamic figure than any of the other Lannisters - whether he gets executed, ala Ned Stark, or there is subterfuge by Varys, Jamie, Bronn, etc., or some combination, his will be the central story in that set and perhaps the entire show. We might not see LF and Sansa until next season, now that I think about it, because they're in a holding pattern - of course Arya and The Hound are outside calling for Lysa.

As far as coming to terms with the death of a character? Certainly seems like that is set up - and that he went out on his own terms, rather than taking a deal that Jaime and Tywin brokered.

It's like a lot of movies where you see it coming and just write them all off - that way, if any of them make it, you can be happy.

I halfway expect it to be Sam in charge in the North (maybe Rickon?), the little Aryn kid in the Vale, Myrcella in Dorne and Gendry at KL before it's all over, with everyone else dead -
Posted by Starchild
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Posted on 6/10/14 at 2:07 pm to
With Mance in the previews I expect something brief from there.
Stannis and Davos I could see holding off until next season if they're heading to the Wall. They'll likely appear right as the situation at Castle Black seems bleak ala Tywin at Blackwater.

As for the rest. I think some combo of the Arya/Hound, Brienne/Pod, and Littlefinger/Sansa stories will intersect. There's something big brewing at the Eyrie.

Tyrion's fate is wide open. I just cannot see him dying yet, but GRRM's prime directive seems to be killing fan favorites so I won't be shocked either way.
Posted by Cap Crunch
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Posted on 6/10/14 at 2:12 pm to
I'm expecting Jamie to make one last push to save him. I think there's been too much buildup in their relationship this season for Jamie to not try something.

As far as whether or not it works? Well I'm not gonna get my hopes up.

I still think there is enough going on in Kings Landing without Tyrion. If Cersei finds out that the Tyrells were behind Joffrey's death that could mix things up. Plus, I'm hoping for some of the Martells to come in and seek vengeance for Oberyn's death, especially after the Mountain did confess to killing and raping Elia. Not to mention, Tywin is still running the show and will eventually have to decide what to do about North of the Wall/Winter coming.

I might have veered off of what your point was but oh well



Also, one last thought from me on this episode. I watched it twice and just watched this scene again today, and I have gotten chills all three times when Grenn and co. started yelling the Night's Watch vows with the giant running toward them. Such a great scene.
Posted by Ace Midnight
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Posted on 6/10/14 at 2:20 pm to
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If Cersei finds out that the Tyrells were behind Joffrey's death that could mix things up.


That's true, but that's an anthill they can only kick with 1 episode to go - and we've seen very little of the Tyrells since the wedding. Mace is on the small council and Margery is wooing Tommen, but those are small, small bits - at the present. But, you're right, those could fill the vacuum of a Tyrion-less King's Landing.

(And does anyone question he is either going to be executed or otherwise get the hell out? He can't stay in KL unless his head is in a pike, right?)

ETA: In a way, Tyrion's death will calm things down, considerably for the Tyrells, as he is the convicted kingslayer/kinslayer. Cersei's lust for vengeance will be satiated, to a degree, although she still wants Sansa. Perhaps Tyrion makes an impassioned confession, absolving anyone else, including Sansa, before his execution?
This post was edited on 6/10/14 at 2:25 pm
Posted by Cap Crunch
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Posted on 6/10/14 at 2:24 pm to
Well I kinda misread your post. I'm talking future events in Kings Landing for next season. And yes, it would appear the Tyrion will be leaving either way. No way he can stay there and not be killed.
Posted by CocomoLSU
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Posted on 6/10/14 at 2:39 pm to
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Margery

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but those are small, small bits

:toobadthedroolemoticonisbroken:
Posted by Cap Crunch
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Posted on 6/10/14 at 2:41 pm to
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margery

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:toobadthedroolemoticonisbroken:

This post was edited on 6/10/14 at 2:42 pm
Posted by CocomoLSU
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Posted on 6/10/14 at 2:42 pm to
Glad nobody was looking at my phone in this training I'm in right now.

And I actually think she looks sort of weird (her smirky face,) but her body is straight up bangin'.
This post was edited on 6/10/14 at 2:43 pm
Posted by Ace Midnight
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Posted on 6/10/14 at 2:46 pm to
Oh and sorry fellas, "Margaery" - I always grapple with spelling that correclty.



(Played by the lovely Natalie Dormer.)
Posted by Cap Crunch
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Posted on 6/10/14 at 2:46 pm to
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And I actually think she looks sort of weird (her smirky face,)

Nope

Posted by wildtigercat93
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Posted on 6/10/14 at 2:52 pm to
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I actually think she looks sort of weird (her smirky face,)


You've never been gayer than you are right now
Posted by CocomoLSU
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Posted on 6/10/14 at 2:55 pm to
Then you clearly don't hang out with me often.

But I didn't say she was ugly, or that I wouldn't hit it. Just that she gets weird arse looks on her face sometimes. And that's not new (I've said it before).

But I won't object to my comments leading to her pics posted though.
This post was edited on 6/10/14 at 2:56 pm
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