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re: Game of Thrones S4:E5 "First of his Name" A Thread for Book MAESTERS (SPOILERS)

Posted on 5/5/14 at 10:12 am to
Posted by aggressor
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Posted on 5/5/14 at 10:12 am to
I would love it if they used Bran's storyline that way to fill in the blanks. The biggest thing missing in the shows imo is they don't have flashbacks and barely touch the prophecies. Allowing Bran to do this would really improve the show imo.
Posted by thatguy1892
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Posted on 5/5/14 at 10:14 am to
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Wildling warg did it with no problems, right?


Wrong. The girl Six Skins tried to warg into fought him and caused them both to die making him warg into a wolf. Once a warg has been inside it's easier for the mind to be controlled but the first attempt is always the hardest. The first time Bran entered Hodor he was only in the mind for like 30 seconds before Hodor kicked him out. Plus Six Skins was better trained than Bran. If Bran were to warg into someone just to have them commit suicide it would have cause Bran a lot of pain and possibly drove him mad.
Posted by deSandman
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Posted on 5/5/14 at 10:17 am to
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Wildling warg did it with no problems, right? Also, there is talks of it being done in the books and the notion that it's a serious sin to do so. So clearly it's doable.


I think the wildling skin changer tries in the book but she fights it and draws the attention of the wights. I don't think its easy to take over a human, particularly a healthy one with a normal mind. I think at this point Summer and Hodor are the only minds Bran can enter.
Posted by fr33manator
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Posted on 5/5/14 at 10:24 am to
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They may need to bring back Sean Bean as well.


The Walking Ned
Posted by fr33manator
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Posted on 5/5/14 at 10:32 am to
So the scene between Arya and the hound does that mean that syrio forel is alive?
Posted by Napoleon
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Posted on 5/5/14 at 10:37 am to
I have heard people think Syrio is Jaquen.

This post was edited on 5/5/14 at 10:37 am
Posted by YumYum Sauce
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Posted on 5/5/14 at 10:46 am to
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So the scene between Arya and the hound does that mean that syrio forel is alive?


every main or semi important character that dies is shown getting killed. his death was never shown, and you know GRRM/HBO likes to show as much blood and violence as possible
Posted by Bard
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Posted on 5/5/14 at 10:46 am to
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why was jojen's hand burning?


My guess is that it's foreshadowing his own death.
Posted by Putty
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Posted on 5/5/14 at 10:48 am to
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does that mean that syrio forel is alive?


I've always thought he was alive. Not sure about the Jaqen theory though.
This post was edited on 5/5/14 at 10:50 am
Posted by Putty
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Posted on 5/5/14 at 10:51 am to
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why was jojen's hand burning?


I think that was showing him have his vision of Rast dying and being burned inside the keep.
Posted by fr33manator
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Posted on 5/5/14 at 10:53 am to
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I have heard people think Syrio is Jaquen.


I have as well. I've also heard he's meryn fricking trant...
Posted by Gugich22
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Posted on 5/5/14 at 11:15 am to
The more I think about the Bran story moving forward, I think the show writers are definitely going to use him/#theweirwoodnetwork to show flashbacks.

That is a fricking BRILLIANT idea and can't think of a better way to show flashbacks. This will introduce Rhaegar/Lyanna, could potentially help fill in some of the Mountain story line, etc.

Perfect direction with his story line if that's where they are headed. I sure hope so.
Posted by Byron Bojangles III
Member since Nov 2012
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Posted on 5/5/14 at 11:32 am to
fricking Coco here we go again

quote:

Well I'll still blame him because as far as I know, it happened in the books. I don't need to know how the show differs from the books, and this isn't the thread to share that information anyway.

But I've specifically blamed him for this kind of stuff in the past, and I assume it's been stuff straight from the books (as the source material).

To my Hodor-self, GRRM = GoT. I simply mentioned his name, whereas you specifically brought Middle Ground thread info in here.

Posted by CocomoLSU
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Posted on 5/5/14 at 11:35 am to
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fricking Coco here we go again

frick that shite...I'm not the one who said anything. UM got mad when I said GRRM was a troll, so I defended why I did. NBD.
Posted by Byron Bojangles III
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Posted on 5/5/14 at 11:36 am to
all the bitching you do you have no business in this thread.
Posted by Bard
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Posted on 5/5/14 at 11:36 am to
lol! Looks like Middle Ground thread readers may be the next witch-hunt target for the Hodor purists
Posted by CocomoLSU
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Posted on 5/5/14 at 11:46 am to
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all the bitching you do you have no business in this thread.

I actually clicked it on accident at first since all three are at the top (not the first time that's happened today either), but then I saw you mention me and felt the need to respond.

And I responded at my own risk, no doubt.

Also find it weird that you were RA'd for posting spoilers in the Middle Ground thread, yet were in the Hodor thread just last week. Weird, no?
Posted by Byron Bojangles III
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Posted on 5/5/14 at 11:48 am to
i started reading the books last week and since then stopped posting in the hodor thread. you'd notice if your head came out of your arse every once in a while.
Posted by CocomoLSU
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Posted on 5/5/14 at 11:50 am to
frick off, dude.* I can see just fine. And if you started reading, then kudos for being in the right threads.





* at least in terms of this. You're cool with me pretty much any other time.
Posted by Byron Bojangles III
Member since Nov 2012
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Posted on 5/5/14 at 11:51 am to


you're just soooooooo uptight in those threads i want you to loosen up
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