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re: Game of Thrones S4:E2:"The Lion and the Rose", HODORS ONLY (no book readers)

Posted on 4/14/14 at 6:46 pm to
Posted by Jet12
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Posted on 4/14/14 at 6:46 pm to
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I don't think she's sticking with them. If she was, she'd have fricked Tyrion by now.


But if that's the case, then...
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why didn't she leave with Littlefinger on the boat?

Obviously you can't really trust Littlefinger, but she is literally being abused by the Lannisters. So...?
Posted by KosmoCramer
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Posted on 4/14/14 at 6:49 pm to
At that point though, she would have had to marry littlefinger. And Robb wasn't dead yet, right?

So I bet if she could leave now she would, but since she's married to Tyrion she probably is guarded 24/7 as opposed to when she was just a visitor after Joffrey switched to Margaery.

Sansa is pretty fricked, and she's really passive I don't think she has much fight left in her now that her Father, Mother and to her knowledge entire family are dead. But why isn't she fricking Tyrion? That would make her life a lot easier.
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Posted on 4/14/14 at 6:56 pm to
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Sansa is pretty fricked, and she's really passive I don't think she has much fight left in her now that her Father, Mother and to her knowledge entire family are dead. But why isn't she fricking Tyrion? That would make her life a lot easier.


Looks like she'd rather just starve herself to death than make children for the people who killed her family - especially with a scarred dwarf.
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Posted on 4/14/14 at 6:58 pm to
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Looks like she'd rather just starve herself to death than make children for the people who killed her family - especially with a scarred dwarf.


If that were the case, she should just slit her wrists or poison herself.

She still has a role in this. I want her and Arya to run Winterfell later on, but I think that's a reach
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Posted on 4/14/14 at 7:01 pm to
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And also my main girl Arya asked him to be killed, is the faceless man behind this?


Would be awesome.

And Ayra is my favorite character on the show. She's about as boss as they come.
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Posted on 4/14/14 at 7:05 pm to
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If that were the case, she should just slit her wrists or poison herself.

She still has a role in this.

It's like with Theon - maybe there's some minor Stockholm syndrome here? Otherwise both would probably find it better to kill themselves. Don't give GRRM ideas.

ETA: Well, the books go farther than this already, but...you know what I mean.
This post was edited on 4/14/14 at 7:06 pm
Posted by KosmoCramer
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Posted on 4/14/14 at 7:05 pm to
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And Ayra is my favorite character on the show. She's about as boss as they come.



I hope they don't prop her up and make her some man killing girl though.

Stabbing the guy in the neck was similar to Django killing Big John Brittle saying "I like the way you die, boy."

Pretty bad-arse. She was my favorite from S1, E1.
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Posted on 4/14/14 at 7:07 pm to
Some of the best scenes of the series were the ones with her and Tywin.
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Posted on 4/14/14 at 7:08 pm to
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Some of the best scenes of the series were the ones with her and Tywin.


Most definitely. It was great.
Posted by KosmoCramer
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Posted on 4/14/14 at 7:14 pm to
Hey guys, I got reminded that when Littlefinger was proposing to take Sansa away, that offer was presented when there was a plan for her to marry Loras and be sisters and besties with Margery.

Obviously that's off the table now.

Thanks CETiger.
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Posted on 4/14/14 at 7:18 pm to
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Some of the best scenes of the series were the ones with her and Tywin.


Most definitely. It was great.

Same. Two very clever characters, and Charles Dance is great as always (and Maisie held her own).

Plus this: LINK He's like "That's my girl".
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Posted on 4/14/14 at 8:18 pm to
The first time Littlefinger offered to get Sansa out of KL was right after Blackwater episode when Joffrey granted Loras' request that he, Joffrey, make his sister his new Queen instead of Sansa. This was also when Littlefinger was given Harrenhall for brokering the deal to have the Tyrells assist the Lannisters in holding off Stannis. And right after Tywin was given the pin to be Hand of the King as his horse shite in the doorway to the throne room. Haha.

As Sansa as walking away from Court she started grinning and smiling and then Littlefinger offered to take her back to Winterfell. He told her she was surrounded by liars, all of which were better than her.

She declined the Hounds offer in the Blackwater episode when she ran back to her room and the Hound was there.

Also, Joffrey wasn't one of the names Aria gave the assassin from Bravos (Jaquen Hagar sp?). She gave him Tickler, then oe of Tywin's advisors who caught her with the note she swiped from Tywin, and then she tricked him by giving him his own name, which she took back if he helped her escape Harrenhall.

He knew that she wanted Joffrey. Cersei, Sir Illin (sp?) the executioner, and the Hound dead, but those weren't any of the names he was obligated to kill for her.

This post was edited on 4/14/14 at 8:29 pm
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Posted on 4/14/14 at 8:46 pm to
That little bitch king is dead!! That might have been my favorite episode of any tv series ever
Posted by Titus Pullo
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Posted on 4/14/14 at 9:02 pm to
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That little bitch king is dead!!


Hey!!! How about a spoiler alert!!?!?!?111


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Posted on 4/14/14 at 9:17 pm to
It happened in this episode. It's not a spoiler
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Posted on 4/14/14 at 9:18 pm to
Can we get a summary on this thread?

Just watched.
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Posted on 4/14/14 at 9:23 pm to
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Can we get a summary on this thread?


Mostly speculation on whoever poisoned Joffrey, and fighting with book-readers.
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Posted on 4/14/14 at 9:27 pm to
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and fighting with book-readers


Posted by Titus Pullo
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Posted on 4/14/14 at 9:41 pm to
I was just fricking with you since it was the main scene in the episode and topic in this thread.

I should have used an lol emoticon or something I guess.

Posted by HardHat
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Posted on 4/14/14 at 9:51 pm to
After reading the entire thread then re-watching the episode. When the band was playing the song right before Joffrey threw money at them and had enough. Margery was very focused and disappointed it ended. Maybe she was enjoying the music and was looking forward to what was about to come? Tyrion then mentions to Joffrey during the first rounds of insults that he should "show everyone how a true king should win his throne, and to be careful this one is clearly mad with lust, it would be a tragedy for the king to lose his virtue hours before his wedding night" Immediately following Margery wants Joffrey to come back for her father's toast. And after another round of insults Margery hints the pie is ready, another ploy trying to get Joffrey to drink.

I beleive. Tyrion, grandma and Margery were all in on it, Tyrion wanted to protect Sansa, and he would only comply if they took her away safely.

I could be completely over thinking this, but that's the story I want to happen.
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