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re: Game of Thrones S4E10 "The Children" Maesters thread SPOILERS!!!

Posted on 6/13/14 at 10:29 am to
Posted by LSUfan20005
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Posted on 6/13/14 at 10:29 am to
For hands of gold are always cold, but a woman's hands are warm...
Posted by Hugo Stiglitz
Member since Oct 2010
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Posted on 6/13/14 at 10:39 am to
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I don't remember this.

yeah, it's not explicitly stated but she does have wolf dreams while in Bravvos.
Posted by Tiger1242
Member since Jul 2011
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Posted on 6/13/14 at 10:42 am to
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I'm wondering how much of the Kingsmoot/Greyjoy Brothers/Dorne/Quentyn will make it in. All of those end up interconnecting in a way (leading up to Dany), but so much of it has to be introduced.

quote:

Guess killing off a large chunk of the Kings Landing storyline (Tywin/Shae/No Tyrion or Varys, less Bronn) can open up for more Dorne/Iron Islands, but sadly, more Mereen.

Things like this will be interesting to see what they leave in/take out. It will let us readers know which of these storylines are going to factor into the story and which of them are just tangents
Posted by Ash Williams
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Posted on 6/13/14 at 11:02 am to
So I'm sure this question has been asked before, but what do yall plan on doing if the show completely passes up the books?

stop watching the show and wait for the books to come out so you're not spoiled by the show?
Posted by ladytiger118
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Posted on 6/13/14 at 11:04 am to
IMO 8 seasons is the right number. 10 is too many and 7 is too short.
Posted by Finkle is Einhorn
Member since Sep 2011
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Posted on 6/13/14 at 11:09 am to
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What did Martin "confirm" about Jon living?


Someone asked him at a convention somewhere about killing off Jon Snow. And GRRM answered, "so you think he's dead do ya?" with a chuckle
Posted by Byron Bojangles III
Member since Nov 2012
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Posted on 6/13/14 at 11:11 am to
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IMO 8 seasons is the right number. 10 is too many and 7 is too short.



8 for 8 books
Posted by Cosmo
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Posted on 6/13/14 at 11:15 am to
I bought my dad a Hooli tshirt for Father's Day.
Posted by LoneMDG
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Posted on 6/13/14 at 11:16 am to
can't be 8 for 8, when book 3 had 2 seasons.

But secretly, book 4 and 5 will be 1 season


For sure, though, they aren't gonna be able to skip the eventual Bolton/Stannis/Jon/Theon plot. Thats got to be iron clad.

Just need to properly cast the right Fat Manderly, and get the prop guys make up 3 large pies, and we're all set.
Posted by Byron Bojangles III
Member since Nov 2012
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Posted on 6/13/14 at 11:44 am to
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So here's the "Winds of Winter" Jon Snow spoiler in GRRM's own words, via io9, a site on the Internet, in response to their question on how the story grew in the telling:

You introduce characters, and sometimes they take on a life of their own.

Some major characters -- yes, I always had plans, what Tyrion's arc was gonna be through this, what Arya's arc was gonna be through this, what Jon Snow's arc is gonna be. I knew what the principal deaths were gonna be, and when they were coming. That would be the closest thing.

Did you see it? Did you see the "Game of Thrones" spoiler that confirms that Jon Snow lives? It's all in that present tense phrasing: "what Jon Snow's arc is gonna be." Tough to have an arc when you're dead. Many commenters on the interview have interpreted it to mean exactly that: like Frodo before him, Jon Snow lives.

Not so fast, say I! Interpret it as a "Winds of Winter" spoiler if you like, but I'm not convinced. Martin could just as well have said "what Ned Stark's arc is gonna be," and that wouldn't mean Ned was coming back. It wouldn't mean anything. A character's story arc can still be spoken of in the present tense even when they are dead -- just as they can be spoken of in the past tense when alive, as GRRM does for Tyrion and Arya above. This means nothing, and if you think it means Jon Snow is definitely still alive, then you know nothing.

That being said, Jon Snow is definitely still alive. Now I'm moving out of possible "Winds of Winter" spoilers and into "Winds of Winter" speculationanalysis, but Jon Snow is not out of this story yet. This is the Song of Ice and Fire, and Jon and Bran are the Ice (Dany is Fire). And far too little of Jon's story has been told. He has yet to come into his own as Azor Ahai (cf. Melisandre's telling quote, "I pray for a glimpse of Azor Ahai, and R'hllor shows me only Snow"). He has yet to become one of the three heads of the dragon, have his true parentage revealed. He has yet to warg his spirit into Ghost and be brought back from the dead in a new (or the same) body by Melisandre, and thusly be released from his Night's Watch oath (now his watch is ended). And if you think none of that will happen, well... I think you know what the phrase is.


LINK
Posted by BlackleafBaller
Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 6/13/14 at 11:49 am to
As much as I'd like for GRRM to finish the damn books already I honestly wouldn't mind watching the show as a Hodor again.
Posted by CheeseburgerEddie
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Posted on 6/13/14 at 11:52 am to
the hodor melt when he goes down and the show fades to black to end the season will be great.
Posted by BeaverPRO
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Posted on 6/13/14 at 12:23 pm to
Posted by Byron Bojangles III
Member since Nov 2012
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Posted on 6/13/14 at 1:05 pm to
yet another reason i hate Dany

Posted by Putty
Member since Oct 2003
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Posted on 6/13/14 at 1:09 pm to
quote:

"The Children"


that Tywin drops off at the pool?
Posted by Cosmo
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Posted on 6/13/14 at 1:18 pm to
Dumb skank
Posted by LoneMDG
Birmingham
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Posted on 6/13/14 at 2:45 pm to
The "Previously On" for the last episode

Gives you an idea on what past storylines are involved. Or are not potentially involved :(
Posted by Finkle is Einhorn
Member since Sep 2011
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Posted on 6/13/14 at 3:00 pm to
Keep in mind in the books Dany is a 13/14 yr old girl who is trying to learn how to rule a continent of people. So she is bound to make mistakes along the way
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Posted by Byron Bojangles III
Member since Nov 2012
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Posted on 6/13/14 at 3:02 pm to
but not in he show. which is what we're talking about
Posted by Gugich22
Who Dat Nation
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Posted on 6/13/14 at 3:06 pm to
So, based on that preview, we KNOW the following to be true:

Bloodraven
Stannis!
Arya parting for Braavos (and, thus, parting ways with the Hound, as well)

They didn't show Tyrion, even though we all know what's going to happen. Hopefully we see Shae choked with hands of gold on the way to the privy.
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