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re: Game of Thrones S4E10 "The Children" Maesters thread SPOILERS!!!

Posted on 6/12/14 at 11:00 pm to
Posted by Finkle is Einhorn
Member since Sep 2011
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Posted on 6/12/14 at 11:00 pm to
I think so. Unless he shows up next episode and helps Bran get to Bloodraven. I think they'll use the children of the forest for that though and Leaf
Posted by John McClane
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Posted on 6/13/14 at 12:40 am to
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i'm halfway through book 4 and so far there's no real WTF moments


Just in that book you mean?
Posted by lsuguy13
RIP MATT
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Posted on 6/13/14 at 1:27 am to
What did Martin "confirm" about Jon living?
Posted by InThroughTheOutDore
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Member since Nov 2008
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Posted on 6/13/14 at 7:36 am to
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-Davos going to look for Rickon

What did I forget?


There's a lot in that Davos line if you're carrying it all the way through to Frey Pie...
Posted by Dire Wolf
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Posted on 6/13/14 at 8:13 am to
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Hail Jesus, that lying whore Shae will be ended.

Posted by Byron Bojangles III
Member since Nov 2012
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Posted on 6/13/14 at 8:17 am to
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What did Martin "confirm" about Jon living?



he said he knew what Jon's arc is and not what it was. TIFWIW
Posted by Byron Bojangles III
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Posted on 6/13/14 at 8:18 am to
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Just in that book you mean?



WTF? Obviously
Posted by Dire Wolf
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Posted on 6/13/14 at 8:19 am to
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If he is dead, it won't be for long.



if he stays dead i'll burn the book like it is a leborn cavs jersey and start reading the hunger games
Posted by ladytiger118
Member since Aug 2009
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Posted on 6/13/14 at 8:37 am to
Exactly.
Posted by PsychTiger
Member since Jul 2004
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Posted on 6/13/14 at 9:13 am to
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Now, being the "golden hand of the king" I could see Jaime having that title. After all he's gone through and will go through, he'd be great at the position. I do, however, think he will die in the end


But Hodor doesn't even know him yet.
Posted by Hugo Stiglitz
Member since Oct 2010
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Posted on 6/13/14 at 9:46 am to
Curious to see how the show plays the Hound in this episode.

I'm thinking they don't show him die but leave it up to speculation.
Posted by Hugo Stiglitz
Member since Oct 2010
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Posted on 6/13/14 at 9:47 am to
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So they say for sure Jon dies? I don't think they do

they do not.

But all indications point to him warging into ghost at the time of the daggers.
Posted by Byron Bojangles III
Member since Nov 2012
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Posted on 6/13/14 at 9:52 am to
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But all indications point to him warging into ghost at the time of the daggers.



so if he does that and someone (melisandre maybe) can somehow take him out of Ghost and put him into a new body that frees him from his vows of the NW.
Posted by Hugo Stiglitz
Member since Oct 2010
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Posted on 6/13/14 at 9:55 am to
I think his brothers killing him (physical body) ends his watch.
This post was edited on 6/13/14 at 9:56 am
Posted by Korin
Member since Jan 2014
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Posted on 6/13/14 at 9:55 am to
Wasn't Ghost locked up though?
Posted by Hugo Stiglitz
Member since Oct 2010
72937 posts
Posted on 6/13/14 at 9:56 am to
does it really matter?

Arya wargs into Nymeria from across the narrow sea.
Posted by ffishstik
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Posted on 6/13/14 at 9:58 am to
That's the only way it will work. I did think back, though, and Brienne doesn't have to assume that he's dead. In fact, it makes more sense if she thinks that he escaped if they stick with the story in the books because everyone except Arya believed that the Hound was raping and killing in the Riverlands. That could actually add more material to Brienne's POV next season if she is still looking for him thinking that he has Arya.
Posted by ffishstik
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Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 6/13/14 at 10:10 am to
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Why do people keep assuming that books 4 & 5 are going to be covered by one 10 episode season?




Short answer is because the producers of the show have said that they plan to finish in 7 seasons.

The show is going to become even more out of sync with the books next season and even D&D have said that they envision having about half of ADWD left to cover in season 6.

That said, I think we are in for a struggle between the HBO writers, GRRM and reality. D&D have said that they plan to finish in 7 seasons, but that is simply not realistic, even if they give in to Martin's idea of expanding the seasons beyond 10 episodes. I've also seen where Martin was wanting like 10 seasons with prequel stuff included like the Dunk and Egg stories. That won't happen either.

I've always thought that 9 seasons made the most sense, but I've come around to the argument of those who say HBO will not stretch it out that long. I'm guessing 8.

Posted by LoneMDG
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Member since Nov 2009
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Posted on 6/13/14 at 10:17 am to
I'm wondering how much of the Kingsmoot/Greyjoy Brothers/Dorne/Quentyn will make it in. All of those end up interconnecting in a way (leading up to Dany), but so much of it has to be introduced.

Guess it might be why they haven't killed Balon yet. Best to have him die and lead immediately into the Kingsmoot, than have him die in season 3/4 and have the kingsmoot 1-2 years/seasons later.

Guess killing off a large chunk of the Kings Landing storyline (Tywin/Shae/No Tyrion or Varys, less Bronn) can open up for more Dorne/Iron Islands, but sadly, more Mereen.

Think they try to expand Mace's story and bring back Kevan?
Posted by Hu_Flung_Pu
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Member since Jan 2013
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Posted on 6/13/14 at 10:19 am to
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Arya wargs into Nymeria from across the narrow sea.


I don't remember this.
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