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re: Game of Thrones S4E10 "The Children" Maesters thread SPOILERS!!!

Posted on 6/13/14 at 3:18 pm to
Posted by Byron Bojangles III
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Posted on 6/13/14 at 3:18 pm to
so Coldhands is Benjen right?
Posted by Gugich22
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Posted on 6/13/14 at 3:28 pm to
No...Some (and a very few at that) think that to be the case. However, there have been numerous examples posted as to why Benjen isn't Coldhands.


Plus, if there was any way that it was true, the show would have included Coldhands, IMO.
Posted by Byron Bojangles III
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Posted on 6/13/14 at 3:33 pm to
is he at least a ranger of the NW? seems like it
Posted by Gugich22
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Posted on 6/13/14 at 3:45 pm to
Yeah...I believe he is just a long-dead ranger of the NW's in the service of Bloodraven.
Posted by Byron Bojangles III
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Posted on 6/13/14 at 3:48 pm to
just got to the part where Bran wargs into Hodor and kills the wight and after Hodor regains himself he just yells HODOR! a bunch of times it was Roy Dotrice screaming Hodor a bunch of times
Posted by Monsters and Men
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Posted on 6/13/14 at 3:49 pm to
Most likely. He knew about the secret passageway in the Nightfort that only opens for the Night's Watch. He also called Sam "brother."
Posted by CE Tiger
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Posted on 6/13/14 at 3:49 pm to
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it was Roy Dotrice screaming Hodor a bunch of times


theres a great clip on youtube with Dotrice saying every Hodor line in the series
Posted by Eman5805
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Posted on 6/13/14 at 3:52 pm to
I'd ask in the Middle Ground, but you can't talk about actual spoilers so...The Children can't refer to all that many different things.

I figure it has to be the Children of the Forest. But, what I don't know is does this mean they aren't all dead? Does it have to do with a return of previously assumed dead characters?

Interesting no matter what, though I fear this episode will be so tightly packed it'll be poorly paced.
Posted by Gugich22
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Posted on 6/13/14 at 3:56 pm to
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But, what I don't know is does this mean they aren't all dead? Does it have to do with a return of previously assumed dead characters?



I'm not following...
Posted by Byron Bojangles III
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Posted on 6/13/14 at 4:00 pm to
he's asking if..wait never mind i'm confused too
Posted by ladytiger118
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Posted on 6/13/14 at 4:11 pm to
Posted by Korin
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Posted on 6/13/14 at 4:11 pm to
quote:

I'd ask in the Middle Ground, but you can't talk about actual spoilers so...The Children can't refer to all that many different things.

I figure it has to be the Children of the Forest. But, what I don't know is does this mean they aren't all dead? Does it have to do with a return of previously assumed dead characters?

Interesting no matter what, though I fear this episode will be so tightly packed it'll be poorly paced.

The CotF aren't dead, they're just the last few remaining of those who were originally in Westeros.
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Posted on 6/13/14 at 4:23 pm to
Posted by SCTmo
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Posted on 6/13/14 at 4:34 pm to
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The "Previously On" for the last episode


I dislike that the "previously on" consistently telegraphs what's going to occur in the episode that follows it. In this case, I think the show would be served just fine by omitting the Stannis scene and Arya with Jaqen.

I understand why they remind the audience of the place setting they did earlier in the series, but I think the creators severely underestimate the ability of their viewers to remember plot points. Admittedly there are a number of plots going on at once, but the impact of the payoff in those plots is lessened when the viewer is actively waiting for them to happen.
This post was edited on 6/13/14 at 4:35 pm
Posted by LoneMDG
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Posted on 6/13/14 at 4:35 pm to
The Children can mean alot of things.

Obviously the COTF.
Then there's the Stark Children, each at various crossroads (Jon "won" the Wall, Bran reaches his destination, Arya crossing the sea, Sansa enters The Game, Rickon..well, maybe he finally got to wherever he was going)

Then you have the Lannister Children (Tyrion, Jamie, Cersei), at crossroads of their own.

Dany's dragon's are her Children, and I think this is the point where she learns that they are dangerous creatures, and has them locked up.


Yeah, the Previously on are almost surefire ways to know what's important/coming. But, it was needed a couple episodes ago, to remind you about that whole Jon Aryyn death by Lannister thing. Ancient history in the TV show.
This post was edited on 6/13/14 at 4:38 pm
Posted by Eman5805
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Posted on 6/13/14 at 4:40 pm to
I was being vague for no reason. I know what and who Lady Stoneheart is and why the Brotherhood Without Banners has been totally absent this season.

So I wonder if that has something to do with Children. I know nothing more than Stoneheart's existence. And "The Children", to me, could be something a psycho undead Catlyn Stark would mutter. She thinks her children got all killed or are totally at the mercy of the Lannisters.

Of course, I assume she'll come back psycho. She just looked like she lot all her mind at Red Wedding.


Of course, this could be something that doesn't crop up until much later in the books. I don't know as I haven't read that far.
This post was edited on 6/13/14 at 4:41 pm
Posted by ladytiger118
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Posted on 6/13/14 at 4:47 pm to
quote:

I bought my dad a Hooli tshirt for Father's Day.


Does he watch SV?
Posted by ladytiger118
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Posted on 6/13/14 at 4:51 pm to
Yeah, those are definitely 'spoiler-y' for Hodors IMO.
Posted by LoneMDG
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Posted on 6/13/14 at 4:59 pm to
It's why I checked a few times to make sure I'm in the right topic.

I think I'm in the right topic.

Posted by Hugo Stiglitz
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Posted on 6/13/14 at 5:07 pm to
Tyrion gave Shae a gold necklace back in season 2... Hopefully it makes a reappearance Sunday.
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