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re: Game of Thrones - S5:E5 - "Kill the Boy" - BOOK READERS
Posted on 5/11/15 at 8:58 am to Mr. Wayne
Posted on 5/11/15 at 8:58 am to Mr. Wayne
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So far the only change that is pretty much blasphemy is Ser Barristan. Just a complete and utter failure on D&D's part to miss so badly on that decision. They save Grey Worm for his no-penis love affair with Missandei but let one of the greatest men in Westeros die before his time.
The only thing I can see that might somewhat explain it is if Barristan is going to get it in the books in the big battle for Mereen and they are going to eliminate or greatly reduce that battle.
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Posted on 5/11/15 at 9:10 am to Mrtommorrow1987
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Howland read is the high sparrow
maybe, but that would seem silly to me since the crannogmen are related to the children of the forest and follow the old gods, not the seven.
Posted on 5/11/15 at 9:15 am to Methuselah
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The only thing I can see that might somewhat explain it is if Barristan is going to get it in the books in the big battle for Mereen and they are going to eliminate or greatly reduce that battle.
Perhaps - of course we don't know, yet. In any event, if the choice is to have him die with a sword in his hand, or just succumb to old age, disease, etc., then I will, retroactively, be okay with it.
And to echo what others have said - I wouldn't be so upset with them having to make tough, although necessary, choices, if there weren't so much unnecessary crap. The Sparrows being anti-gay crusaders wouldn't be necessary if we hadn't had the over-the-top gay stuff in early seasons and had that be so much a part of Loras' character.
Loras is supposed to be the epitome of the finesse warrior (as a counterpoint to brute strength of cats like King Robert or the Cleganes) - a new Jaime (thus his position as Kingsguard in the books) - but in the show, they're making him more the male Brienne, perverse mirror images of each other. That effort could have been directed in better ways, IMHO.
And the expansion of Grey Worm, at the expense of Strong Belwas, is inexcusable - adding sexual tension to a eunuch's relationship with an even less major character is more so. The elimination of Selmy, presumably for more screen time for Missandei and Grey Worm seems way less reasonable than combining Jorah with Griff/Young Griff, for example.
This post was edited on 5/11/15 at 9:17 am
Posted on 5/11/15 at 9:15 am to Methuselah
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e only thing I can see that might somewhat explain it is if Barristan is going to get it in the books in the big battle for Mereen and they are going to eliminate or greatly reduce that battle.
Based on the tweets from GRRM's camp, I seriously doubt he will. I have always felt Selmy was meant to return to Westeros and from what they are saying, that appears to be accurate. Dany needs support from some existing houses. Big difference between marching up to King's Landing with Barristan the Bold at your side as compared to not. As it stands now, she will be seen as a foreigner, someone who has spent her entire life outside of Westeros.
Posted on 5/11/15 at 9:20 am to Mr. Wayne
Didn't the previews throughout the season and in the trailers show Jorah in the pits?
Posted on 5/11/15 at 9:21 am to Mr. Wayne
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A kin-slaying Imp,
I don't think Tyrion is a kinslayer. I think he's a Targ.
Posted on 5/11/15 at 9:22 am to Mr. Wayne
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Jorah can't take the freaking black if he's dead
I just re-read dance..... why would jorah take the black?
He's part of the second sons now, and personally I don't see him surviving in the books.
Posted on 5/11/15 at 9:29 am to JumpingTheShark
Yes he's in the pits
Posted on 5/11/15 at 9:40 am to Byron Bojangles III
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Yes he's in the pits
Unless they're messing with us, this was confirmed in the leaked, pre-season pics:
Posted on 5/11/15 at 9:43 am to Ace Midnight
So now that guy has grey scale. He better hope Jorah kills him
Posted on 5/11/15 at 9:45 am to weagle99
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Why marry that guy if she plans to go to Westeros?
He's the head of one of the (if not THE) most powerful houses in the city. By marrying into it (and most likely the leadership of the Sons), she sets up a situation where the House and its allies either have to kill the highest ranking member of that House (and thus risk rivalry wars) or tone it down. This may have not worked, but giving in on the fighting pits AND marrying into the family gives her reign and presence a real sense of permanence (ie: she's not going away).
Jorah getting Scaled - One of the things that set off my spidey-sense was Stannis' speech with his daughter about how much he did to try to cure her of Greyscale. While she was never cured, the spread stopped. My guess is that something like that will happen with Jorah.
Sir Barristan - If he's really integral going forward, they'll rez him somehow. Some other priest of the Lord of Light or somesuch will come along. Otherwise they'll replace his advisory role with someone like Tyrion.
Myranda (the kennel master's daughter) -
Ramsay making Reek/Theon the one that gives the bride away was a bit of a shocker.
Posted on 5/11/15 at 9:52 am to Bard
I've always thought it seemed crazy that Dany is/was so intent on trying to hold Meereen to the point where she was willing to marry someone from there, when her ultimate goal is to conquer Westeros. I mean. why even bother. It's not like she could rule all of Westeros and Meereen at the same time.
ETA: Or at this point (where the show currently is), did/does Dany still even plan on going to Westeros, or has she given up on that in order to rule Meereen instead?
ETA: Or at this point (where the show currently is), did/does Dany still even plan on going to Westeros, or has she given up on that in order to rule Meereen instead?
This post was edited on 5/11/15 at 9:57 am
Posted on 5/11/15 at 9:59 am to Putty
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I don't think Tyrion is a kinslayer. I think he's a Targ.
I can see why people believe this theory, I just hate it more than any other. First off, he is Tywins son. Not only is no other character as smart as Tywin, Tyrion is actually smarter. Secondly, I think it's a huge disservice to Tyrion. Not only does it make him an actual bastard, "all dwarves are bastards in their fathers eyes", it takes away from his character IMO. He is the result of a mother who died giving him birth and a father that hated him for it. It takes away from his being the one to kill Tywin and really brings nothing to the table. Plus I want him to inherit Casterly Rock and end up with Sansa in the end. Sansa has had one person be kind and honest with her in the series and it's the only one she hasn't given a chance. Think it will say a lot for her character if she grows to love Tyrion.
Posted on 5/11/15 at 10:03 am to Bard
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Ramsay making Reek/Theon the one that gives the bride away was a bit of a shocker.
That's what happened in Dance. Albeit with Jeyne as "Arya" instead of Ramsay marrying Sansa.
Posted on 5/11/15 at 10:05 am to Josh Fenderman
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Ramsay making Reek/Theon the one that gives the bride away was a bit of a shocker.
did you read???
Posted on 5/11/15 at 10:06 am to 68wDoc68w
You're not talking to me, are you?
Posted on 5/11/15 at 10:09 am to Josh Fenderman
no sorry meant for Bard I believe
Posted on 5/11/15 at 10:09 am to Mr. Wayne
I do too hate the Tyrion is a targ theory. If it were true Tywin and Jamie could have used it as an excuse for their role against the mad king. Tywin could have justified the murder or alienation of Tyrion at that point.
That and even their relatives notice how much Tyrion is the son of twin,( the fat aunt in the Jamie chapter in feast)
That and even their relatives notice how much Tyrion is the son of twin,( the fat aunt in the Jamie chapter in feast)
Posted on 5/11/15 at 10:12 am to Mr. Wayne
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Plus I want him to inherit Casterly Rock and end up with Sansa in the end.
I think he ends up with Tasha.
Sansa will evolve into a "Queen of Thorns" type character, but in the north, IMHO - once she reconnects with her brothers, albeit briefly. I still think there's a good chance Rickon returns as Lord of Winterfell, and Sansa will guide him as he barely remembers his father.
This post was edited on 5/11/15 at 10:12 am
Posted on 5/11/15 at 10:13 am to Bard
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Myranda (the kennel master's daughter) -
Myranda >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sansa.
By virtue of terrible luck, Sansa just happened to inherit one of the most powerful vaginas in all of Westeros.
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