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Frasier Reboot on Paramount (spoilers)

Posted on 10/12/23 at 10:20 am
Posted by lsusa
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Posted on 10/12/23 at 10:20 am
The first two episodes have dropped.

They were entertaining. The writing and supporting cast don’t seem as sharp, but there is potential there. Had a few good laughs. Kelsey Grammar is back to form.

He’s taken a job in Boston to be closer to his son, who dropped out of Harvard to become a fire fighter. Trying to recapture the dynamic between Frasier and Martin. Niles and Daphne’s son is a freshman in college, and has moved in with them as well. There are a few other side characters which seem interesting.

I’m looking forward to watching the rest of the season. I don’t think they’ll be able to recreate the magic of the original, but it’s still better than most of what’s being put out.
Posted by dallastiger55
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Member since Jan 2010
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Posted on 10/12/23 at 10:22 am to
Need Niles and Daphne and you know they won’t do it because Grammar is a big republican. Many of his friends have black listed him.
Posted by WG_Dawg
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Posted on 10/12/23 at 10:27 am to
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He’s taken a job in Boston


I know literally nothing about this reboot other than what you've just posted in the OP. If memory serves, at the very end of hte original show he got on a plane to Chicago to follow a woman there, is that addressed in this new run?
Posted by TheNameIsDalton
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Posted on 10/12/23 at 10:57 am to
Just watched the first two episodes, better than my initial expectations, I'll continue to watch weekly.

Does answer some questions from the bridge at the end of Frasier to today but you can tell they're going to slowly bring more info to light. A lot of potential for the show, liked the cast quite a bit. It's obviously not original Frasier level but still better than a lot that's currently airing.

Touching tribute to John Mahoney as well.
Posted by lsusa
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Posted on 10/12/23 at 11:09 am to
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I know literally nothing about this reboot other than what you've just posted in the OP. If memory serves, at the very end of hte original show he got on a plane to Chicago to follow a woman there, is that addressed in this new run?


Yes, they address it in the first five minutes of the show.

He wound up with a TV show in Chicago that brought him national notoriety, but things didn’t work out with the woman.
Posted by hsfolk
Member since Sep 2009
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Posted on 10/12/23 at 12:01 pm to
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his son, who dropped out of Harvard to become a fire fighter


I wonder how Lilith took that news?
Posted by cypresstiger
The South
Member since Aug 2008
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Posted on 10/12/23 at 1:36 pm to
Many of his friends have black listed him.
—A paycheck is a paycheck. When’s the last time you saw either Niles or Daphne in anything?
Posted by hsfolk
Member since Sep 2009
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Posted on 10/12/23 at 1:40 pm to
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Daphne


not since that Hot in Cleveland show
Posted by speedbump032
The Chuck
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Posted on 10/12/23 at 3:22 pm to
(Daphne)
She plays Kit Voss on the t.v show The Resident on FOX
Posted by LouisianaLonghorn
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Posted on 10/12/23 at 3:43 pm to
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I don’t think they’ll be able to recreate the magic of the original, but it’s still better than most of what’s being put out.


Any mention of Roz?
Posted by The Godfather
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Posted on 10/12/23 at 4:03 pm to
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Any mention of Roz?




Haven't seen it yet, but I do believe she makes a appearance this season. Lilith does as well
This post was edited on 10/12/23 at 4:03 pm
Posted by StringMusic
Metaire, LA
Member since Dec 2006
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Posted on 10/12/23 at 4:13 pm to
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Daphne


The Virgin
Posted by Fewer Kilometers
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 10/12/23 at 4:18 pm to
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quote:

Many of his friends have black listed him.

—A paycheck is a paycheck. When’s the last time you saw either Niles or Daphne in anything?

Evidently he's not on the James Woods/Kevin Sorbo end of the spectrum, because the network that is known for its "woke" programming gave him his own show.

Hyde Pierce has said that he enjoyed playing Niles but doesn't see the need to return to that character.

Posted by Sus-Scrofa
Member since Feb 2013
8146 posts
Posted on 10/12/23 at 9:03 pm to
Watched episode one.

The laugh track is out of control.

But I’m not sure I’ve seen a pilot start out so shaky and then get halfway decent in one episode.
Posted by Sus-Scrofa
Member since Feb 2013
8146 posts
Posted on 10/12/23 at 9:28 pm to
Episode two.

So one of the inconsistencies in Cheers and Frasier was that in Cheers he said his dad was dead.

They dealt with that inconsistency in Frasier, and now they’re using that storyline here. That’s fairly clever.
Posted by lsusa
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Member since Oct 2005
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Posted on 10/13/23 at 1:16 am to
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So one of the inconsistencies in Cheers and Frasier was that in Cheers he said his dad was dead. They dealt with that inconsistency in Frasier, and now they’re using that storyline here. That’s fairly clever.


I thought the scenes at the bar with Freddy’s co-workers were among the highlights of the episode. They set it up well earlier when Frasier asked why he was getting help to move from his cousin,
rather than his buddies from work. He got a good shot at Lillith in with his explanation. Also a good call back later when Frasier referenced them not noticing “they had the same last name”.

Hopefully in a show down the road a guest star will inform Freddy of his father’s own behavior, giving Frasier a little comeuppance.

I’ve read articles where they mention having guest stars on the series, but only want to do it “if it makes sense within the story”.
Posted by WG_Dawg
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Posted on 10/13/23 at 7:42 am to
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So one of the inconsistencies in Cheers and Frasier was that in Cheers he said his dad was dead.

They dealt with that inconsistency in Frasier, and now they’re using that storyline here. That’s fairly clever.



can you explain this? How did they "deal with it" in Frasier, and how is now being used in the new reboot
Posted by Sus-Scrofa
Member since Feb 2013
8146 posts
Posted on 10/13/23 at 10:08 am to
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can you explain this? How did they "deal with it" in Frasier, and how is now being used in the new reboot


When Sam visited Frasier in Seattle and meets Martin, he points out that Frasier told them his dad was dead (in Cheers).

Frasier basically explained it away that he and his dad were on the outs at the time. Now Freddy has done basically the same thing.

Like a few posts above mentioned, I bet they use a guest appearance to call Frasier out on that.
Posted by nvasil1
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Member since Oct 2009
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Posted on 10/13/23 at 12:00 pm to
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But I’m not sure I’ve seen a pilot start out so shaky and then get halfway decent in one episode.


Totally agree. Nothing was really landing with me until Frasier showed up at Freddy's apartment to cook dinner. Then it flipped a switch into a classic Frasier episode with a dinner gone awry, supporting characters showing up unannounced, and general misunderstandings. The second episode was even better.

Freddy basically being a young version of Martin makes him an acceptable foil for Frasier, and is a nice tip of the cap to John Mahoney's character. I'm looking forward to watching every week.
This post was edited on 10/13/23 at 7:51 pm
Posted by Fewer Kilometers
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Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 10/13/23 at 12:08 pm to
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The laugh track is out of control.

But I’m not sure I’ve seen a pilot start out so shaky and then get halfway decent in one episode.


This reminds me of watching the That 70's Show pilot where it was basically kids shouting punchlines over a loud laugh track. I thought it would get cancelled before the 2nd episode.
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