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re: First look at Galadriel in Amazon’s The Lord of the Rings series

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Posted by PillageUrVillage
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Posted on 2/10/22 at 10:55 am to
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the caption of the image from the story about this elf doesn't instill confidence about that storyline.


There's a lot of room for liberties to be taken, and I'm sure I won't like all of them.
Posted by iwyLSUiwy
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Posted on 2/10/22 at 10:58 am to
Here's another one. Looks darker here.



Here's the full article...

LINK
Posted by Scoob
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Posted on 2/10/22 at 11:06 am to
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Is this one of the black hobbits? She seems to be dressed like a dwarf.

Definitely a Dwarf. Runes, stone work, lots of gold including on her fingers.

For what it's worth, there were 7 Houses of Dwarves, descended from 7 prototype figures. They were said to have different appearances, and we only saw Durin's Folk in LOTR and The Hobbit. It's also stated that multiple Houses sent armies to fight for Moria- implying there was some interaction amongst the Houses at some point.

She does have a neckbeard showing.

I'm more curious about wtf the moose-folks are.

Posted by OMLandshark
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Posted on 2/10/22 at 11:06 am to
Honestly I don’t even think Hobbits were around in the Second Age. Maybe they were somewhere, but I got the impression that Hobbits came around shortly after Sauron’s defeat since the world was at peace for sometime in the early Third Age. Regardless there’s no mention of them before the Third Age.
Posted by Frac the world
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Posted on 2/10/22 at 11:06 am to


this show is fricked
Posted by iwyLSUiwy
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Posted on 2/10/22 at 11:08 am to
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I'm more curious about wtf the moose-folks are.


Me too. The VF article says "two nomadic hunters wandering the fields of Middle-earth."
Posted by imjustafatkid
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Posted on 2/10/22 at 11:09 am to
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For what it's worth, there were 7 Houses of Dwarves, descended from 7 prototype figures. They were said to have different appearances, and we only saw Durin's Folk in LOTR and The Hobbit. It's also stated that multiple Houses sent armies to fight for Moria- implying there was some interaction amongst the Houses at some point.


I mean I get it, but it seems highly unlikely that a people that lives entirely underground or in caves would end up looking anything other than very light skinned.

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I'm more curious about wtf the moose-folks are.


Caption said they were hunters, so I'm assuming those are just trophies they're carrying around. Otherwise it must really suck for those guys to try to go to a pub.
This post was edited on 2/10/22 at 11:10 am
Posted by Philzilla2k
Member since Oct 2017
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Posted on 2/10/22 at 11:10 am to
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That's the actor that played young Ned Stark, right?

Looks like it.
Would have liked to see a shot of Celebrimbor, I mean he has to be in this and have a fairly substantial role.
This post was edited on 2/10/22 at 11:12 am
Posted by theGarnetWay
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Posted on 2/10/22 at 11:18 am to
Look, I agree that Hollywood has gone way too far in switching up established characters to change their skin color or gender just for the sake of it being "inclusive."

But too many people go out there looking for "wokeness" when it may not even be there. Just because there's an interracial couple doesn't make it an illegitimate story or narrative.

The couple that are engaged in some sort of forbidden relationship based on their race, religion, credit, levels of wealth is a tale as old as time and has been in human literature (and in actual human history) for as long as literature has existed.

Could it be super woke? I guess. That'll depend on how it's portrayed. But don't dismiss shite out of the gate because there's an interracial couple and we could be seeing our first ever black dwarf.
Posted by Obtuse1
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Posted on 2/10/22 at 11:20 am to
Anyone worried about the beard being missing it is clear she has mutton chops and a thin beard that runs all the way around on the neck. This is in keeping with the portrayals in the movies.


Posted by Byron Bojangles III
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Posted on 2/10/22 at 11:20 am to
it's like a black actor can't just be, you know, the best actor.
Posted by Scoob
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Posted on 2/10/22 at 11:21 am to
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For what it's worth, there were 7 Houses of Dwarves, descended from 7 prototype figures. They were said to have different appearances, and we only saw Durin's Folk in LOTR and The Hobbit. It's also stated that multiple Houses sent armies to fight for Moria- implying there was some interaction amongst the Houses at some point.



I mean I get it, but it seems highly unlikely that a people that lives entirely underground or in caves would end up looking anything other than very light skinned.
Well;

for one thing Aule made the Dwarves. You can't impose evolution standards on fantasy figures like that. They look the way they do, because that's how they were made, not because of where they lived and evolved.

For another, Dwarves don't live their whole lives underground or in caves... that is where their cities are, and where they mine. You realize that glass stops UV light and thus tanning, right? And yet there are lots of black people who spend the majority of their time indoors, and yet have the same complexion as her.
*Gimli referenced "roast meat on the bone" as a welcoming meal as they approached Moria. I doubt the Dwarves considered rat a suitable meal for a feast, we're talking either livestock or deer etc. Something that needs to be outdoors grazing.

The Dwarves withdrew to their homes and caves after much strife AND the increased rise of Men, but they still traveled. In fact they're the predominant race to travel, they're the ones using The Road mostly according to Tolkien.
Posted by JetsetNuggs
Member since Jun 2014
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Posted on 2/10/22 at 11:23 am to
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because TV is a different medium and things are adjusted for TV


I've always disliked this argument

There is no reason, other than personal agendas, that they can't make things just like source materials
Posted by OMLandshark
Member since Apr 2009
120445 posts
Posted on 2/10/22 at 11:23 am to
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Could be just the shot, but Elrond is a Noldor and they have dark hair.


Galadriel is also Noldor though, so not universal.
Posted by Scoob
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Posted on 2/10/22 at 11:39 am to
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Could be just the shot, but Elrond is a Noldor and they have dark hair.



Galadriel is also Noldor though, so not universal.

... except that they have always made a big point out of Galadriel's unique golden hair, and how unusual it is. She favors her mother's Vanyar heritage.
Posted by imjustafatkid
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Posted on 2/10/22 at 11:41 am to
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But too many people go out there looking for "wokeness" when it may not even be there. Just because there's an interracial couple doesn't make it an illegitimate story or narrative


That's not what I said.
Posted by CGSC Lobotomy
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Posted on 2/10/22 at 11:46 am to
This makes no sense. Galadriel and Elrond basically don't age over 4,000 years. They should look like Cate Blanchett and Hugo Weaving.
Posted by theGarnetWay
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Posted on 2/10/22 at 11:47 am to
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That's not what I said.


This is what you said:

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So I'm sure the problem is that he's an elf, but since the actor is a dark-skinned guy it's going to be totally overshadowed by modern racial politics instead of just a general storyline about accepting other races. I wouldn't agree with changing the races of any elves anyway, but this seems like the worst possible person to change. The whole story is going to be overshadowed by modern racial identity as opposed to elves/humans.


You stated that the relationship would be about racial politics and how the story is going to be overshadowed by racial identity.

So yes, you're already dismissing the interracial relationship because you're assuming it's going to be "woke" in nature rather than be about the legitimate and long-used story line of two people that aren't allowed to be together because of their race or creed.
This post was edited on 2/10/22 at 11:50 am
Posted by Arksulli
Fayetteville
Member since Aug 2014
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Posted on 2/10/22 at 11:47 am to
I am not sure she pulls off the Galadriel look. Even among Elves living in Middle Earth at this time Galadriel was unusually elegant. She was also one of the oldest living and most powerful elves kicking around at the time.
Posted by Havoc
Member since Nov 2015
39285 posts
Posted on 2/10/22 at 11:53 am to
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it's like a black actor can't just be, you know, the best actor.

Well that's one problem with affirmative action, forced-diversity/inclusion, etc., we'll never know if the person was the best, will we? And it actually does a disservice to the recipient, the individual it's intended to help, because they themselves may never know for sure if it was merit-based or identity-based.
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