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First Blood (novel)
Posted on 8/13/26 at 1:25 pm
Posted on 8/13/26 at 1:25 pm
I was watching something about Frist Blooe and they talked about how Sly changed the story and that really helped it become a movie.
Has anyone read the novel?
Has anyone read the novel?
Posted on 8/13/26 at 1:31 pm to Split2874
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I was watching something about Frist Blooe and they talked about how Sly changed the story and that really helped it become a movie.
His comments about the original script are really funny.. believe it was on Howard Stern
He's fighting for survival in the woods, then randomly decides to shoot an owl.. then was supposed to say "TAKE THAT YOU MOUSE-MUNCHING MOTHER frickER!"
Posted on 8/13/26 at 1:33 pm to Split2874
nvm I was wrong
This post was edited on 8/13/26 at 1:34 pm
Posted on 8/13/26 at 1:48 pm to Split2874
Yes in the late 70s before the movie came out.
Very enjoyable book but a lot more intense/graphic than the movie...and of course did not have the any of the imagery from the movie that many folks associate with the story.
SPOILERS:
Much higher death count. Both Rambo and Teasle die at the end
Very enjoyable book but a lot more intense/graphic than the movie...and of course did not have the any of the imagery from the movie that many folks associate with the story.
SPOILERS:
Much higher death count. Both Rambo and Teasle die at the end
Posted on 8/13/26 at 2:30 pm to Split2874
The novel was set in Appalachia (eastern Kentucky) and included a plot line where moonshiners up in the hills who were also at odds with the sheriff helped Rambo. Some of the other wilderness chase elements are different too.
The moral divide between the three main characters was a lot more blurry in the novel. In the novel Rambo is a broken toy who snaps and goes on a psychotic rampage whereas the sheriff is an older combat veteran who is flawed but more sympathetic than what is portrayed in the movie. It was more about a generational divide and people being forced into a system.
The novel was originally written in the early 70s and the film rights were a hot property, especially after the success of movies like Dirty Harry, Death Wish, etc. The movie rights were bought and sold by several different studios with lots of big name directors, writers and actors attached at some point during the long period of production hell.
Stallone finally jumped in and got the movie made. He re-wrote the script to make Rambo much more sympathetic and the people pursuing him a lot more villainous.
In both the novel and the original shooting script, Rambo dies at the end. They filmed two different versions of the ending but test audiences hated the version where Rambo died. The death ending is on Youtube.
Kirk Douglas was originally cast as Trautman but left during filming. Douglas maintained that he quit over creative differences because he was fighting for the movie to be more faithful to the source novel. Other people involved in filming claim he was fired for acting like a tyrant on the set and demanding that the entire movie be re-shaped into a Kirk Douglas vehicle when he didn't realize he was past his prime and Stallone was the star.
Posted on 8/13/26 at 5:54 pm to Split2874
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Has anyone read the novel?
I read it. Kind of a major difference is that he dies at the end. That’s kind of rough n the sequels.
Posted on 8/13/26 at 6:37 pm to Split2874
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Has anyone read the novel?
I read at least part of it.
Rambo was decidedly more psychotic and was intentionally defying the sheriff rather than being fricked with while acting innocently.
Posted on 8/13/26 at 8:26 pm to BabysArmHoldingApple
Yeah. trautman takes him out.
Sheriff was a Marine Corps vet of Chosin Reservoir
Sheriff was a Marine Corps vet of Chosin Reservoir
This post was edited on 8/14/26 at 6:29 am
Posted on 8/13/26 at 11:09 pm to prplhze2000
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trautman
Seemed to remember him being way more badass in the book than Richard Crenna was in the movie
Posted on 8/13/26 at 11:25 pm to AUFANATL
quote:it was owned at one point by steve mcqueen, but he could not get his partners in the First Artists production company, especially big libs Streisand and Paul Newman, to agree to make a film about a Vietnam vet. So he sold the rights
The novel was originally written in the early 70s and the film rights were a hot property, especially after the success of movies like Dirty Harry, Death Wish, etc. The movie rights were bought and sold by several different studios with lots of big name directors, writers and actors attached at some point during the long period of production hell.
quote:Kirk claimed he quit b/c he was not allowed to kill Stallone
Kirk Douglas was originally cast as Trautman but left during filming. Douglas maintained that he quit over creative differences because he was fighting for the movie to be more faithful to the source novel. Other people involved in filming claim he was fired for acting like a tyrant on the set and demanding that the entire movie be re-shaped into a Kirk Douglas vehicle
But KD was a notorious a-hole*, so anything is possible
*Old Hollywood saying: "There is a difference between Burt Lancaster and Kirk Douglas. Burt Lancaster would stab his best friend in the back. I'm not sure Kirk Douglas has ever had a friend."
Posted on 8/13/26 at 11:34 pm to BabysArmHoldingApple
Yup. He was a Green Beret, not an office boy who just happened to wear one as he was in the movie
Posted on 8/14/26 at 7:10 am to prplhze2000
I was a teen and didn't understand it like an adult back then, but the whole issue of returning Vietnam vets seemed a lot grittier and darker in the 70s with this book, Rolling Thunder, the aftermath of My Lai, etc.
The first movie softened it. Then Rambo sort of became a "superhero" in the sequels with very little connection to the original feel of the book.
The first movie softened it. Then Rambo sort of became a "superhero" in the sequels with very little connection to the original feel of the book.
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