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re: Elon obtained a copy of Disney’s new inclusion standards for entertainment content

Posted on 2/6/24 at 7:50 pm to
Posted by Corinthians420
Iowa
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Posted on 2/6/24 at 7:50 pm to
do the blue people in avatar count as minorities?
Posted by tiggerthetooth
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Posted on 2/6/24 at 7:55 pm to
If you paid attention you didn't need to see this to know what was happening but this is good for the few holdouts that get upset every time someone mentions the low quality products these mandates are producing.
This post was edited on 2/6/24 at 7:58 pm
Posted by Jack Ruby
Member since Apr 2014
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Posted on 2/6/24 at 8:01 pm to
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Elon is fixing to buy Disney. 


A conspiratorial mind would say Musk is trying to tank the stock even more than it already is so he can buy a huge amount of shares on the cheap, then team up with Nelson Peltz for a hostile takeover of the company and there isnt much Iger and Co could do about it.
This post was edited on 2/6/24 at 8:02 pm
Posted by NIH
Member since Aug 2008
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Posted on 2/6/24 at 8:02 pm to
Agreed. Disney has obviously made veterans a priority.
Posted by Kafka
I am the moral conscience of TD
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Posted on 2/6/24 at 8:07 pm to
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How many years until we white folks can claim to be “underrepresented”?
in the NBA? Now
Posted by Corinthians420
Iowa
Member since Jun 2022
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Posted on 2/6/24 at 8:07 pm to
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A conspiratorial mind would say Musk is trying to tank the stock even more than it already is so he can buy a huge amount of shares on the cheap, then team up with Nelson Peltz for a hostile takeover of the company

Is Nelson Peltz gonna wanna team up with Elon if he costs him millions of dollars by tanking the stock?
Posted by Corinthians420
Iowa
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Posted on 2/6/24 at 8:10 pm to
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How many years until we white folks can claim to be “underrepresented”? We will damn well be underrepresented if this continues.

should be now. white males aren't represented on disney shows to match up with real life.

how are women an underrepresented group? they make up like 51% of the population.
This post was edited on 2/6/24 at 8:11 pm
Posted by imjustafatkid
Alabama
Member since Dec 2011
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Posted on 2/6/24 at 8:19 pm to
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how are women an underrepresented group? they make up like 51% of the population.


You have to understand. This isn't really about representation it's about discrimination against white males.

And conservatives of all stripes, obviously, but they don't put that part in writing.
This post was edited on 2/6/24 at 8:24 pm
Posted by HailToTheChiz
Back in Auburn
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Posted on 2/6/24 at 8:24 pm to
Disney is so shitty
Posted by LanierSpots
Sarasota, Florida
Member since Sep 2010
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Posted on 2/6/24 at 8:27 pm to
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Disney is so shitty




EM can save it baw


Posted by AtticusOSullivan
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Posted on 2/6/24 at 8:46 pm to
FunBitch not gonna like this coming out in the open.
Posted by dallastigers
Member since Dec 2003
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Posted on 2/6/24 at 8:48 pm to
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better yet hire all veterans as the males in the show and you can hit 100% while using all white people


Did you miss the 3 of 5 requirement? Veteran characters are likely not underrepresented in media (note says context is critical in evaluating underrepresented), so 50% gay, trans, and/or crippled characters and these same groups meaningful integration into overall theme of the series premise or episodic storylines have to go along with those 100% White veteran male actors.

So those 100% White male veteran actors can only get a show featuring crippled gay characters dreaming of having fake breasts and fauxginas while discovering new ways to butt frick each other every episode.

I think Disney already has a kids’ show covering this exact premise…

Regardless can you not see the BS in stating that women, blacks, and alphabets are under represented as actors, characters, or storylines in media today. Based on %s of population I can only see the argument for hispanics.
This post was edited on 2/6/24 at 8:52 pm
Posted by Corinthians420
Iowa
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Posted on 2/6/24 at 8:56 pm to
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Veteran characters are likely not underrepresented in media

it says they are right at the bottom of the image.
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so 50% gay, trans, and/or crippled characters and these same groups meaningful integration into overall theme of the series premise or episodic storylines have to go along with those 100% White veteran male actors.

it doesn't say that anywhere.

It says females count towards the 50% as well. so make a show with 50% females (which represents real life accurately) and you have the 50% underrepresented part covered.

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100% White veteran male actors.

count towards the underrepresented category

it's odd that we have a leaked document from fricking Disney saying military veterans count as underrepresented, yet you are in here trying to argue they dont
This post was edited on 2/6/24 at 9:00 pm
Posted by Scruffy
Kansas City
Member since Jul 2011
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Posted on 2/6/24 at 9:11 pm to
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it's odd that we have a leaked document from fricking Disney saying military veterans count as underrepresented, yet you are in here trying to argue they dont
I find it odd that the veteran component is what you are latching on to in order to derail the thread.

Everyone, including yourself, knows that the “veterans only” nonsense you are spewing isn’t the focus of this and has about as much of a chance of occurring as Disney giving Ben Shapiro his own Disney Channel special.

Drop the schtick.
Posted by dallastigers
Member since Dec 2003
8258 posts
Posted on 2/6/24 at 9:25 pm to
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it says they are right at the bottom of the image.


Are you sure the bottom isn’t talking about those who hire being prohibited from asking candidates or talent if they are in any of those groups??


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so 50% gay, trans, and/or crippled characters and these same groups meaningful integration into overall theme of the series premise or episodic storylines have to go along with those 100% White veteran male actors.


it doesn't say that anywhere


Go read standard A again in the context of your claim of using 100% veteran White male actors. Unless you are good with black face on White actors the series can then be about blacks and played by White male veterans using black face to play those black characters and not have to get into the gay, trans, or crippled underrepresented.

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It says females count towards the 50% as well. so make a show with 50% females

So you are changing things now from below???
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better yet hire all veterans as the males in the show and you can hit 100% while using all white people



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it's odd that we have a leaked document from fricking Disney saying military veterans count as underrepresented, yet you are in here trying to argue they dont

Let me know where it says this for characters which is what I said (including context being critical when deciding on the underrepresented) and not in regards to asking possible new hires if they fit those groups

There is a lot of military stuff in media and also characters who used to be in the military. A lot of old straight while males as well. I guess 100% White male veteran actors could play muslims as well as gays, trans, and cripples in some combo to make up 50% or more of the characters.

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Just in case here is the text at bottom of pic (one group is covered up).
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Context is critical when evaluating if a group is "underrepresented."

Anyone involved in hiring decisions is prohibited from asking candidates and talent about their actual or perceived race, religion, color, - , orientation, gender, gender identity, military or veteran status, age, disability, or any other legally protected categories.


2nd Edit: here are both columns to standard A - On Screen Representation

quote:

STANDARD A
ON SCREEN
REPRESENTATION
At least THREE of the following FIVE areas need to be met to fulfill
Standard A:

•A1 Characters: 50% or more of regular and recurring written characters come from Underrepresented Groups
•A2 Actors: 50% or more of regular and recurring actors come from Underrepresented Groups
*A3 Secondary Characters: Meaningful inclusion of Underrepresented Groups as secondary or more minor on-screen individuals, including background actors
•A4 Series Premise: Meaningful integration of Underrepresented Groups in overall themes and narratives
•A5 Episodic Storytelling: Ongoing meaningful integration of Underrepresented Groups in episodic themes and narratives
This post was edited on 2/7/24 at 5:34 am
Posted by Corinthians420
Iowa
Member since Jun 2022
13400 posts
Posted on 2/6/24 at 9:32 pm to
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Everyone, including yourself, knows that the “veterans only” nonsense you are spewing isn’t the focus of this and has about as much of a chance of occurring as Disney giving Ben Shapiro his own Disney Channel special

If the casting manager wanted to cast people to get around these rules it would be very possible.

The only thing stopping them is that the casting managers they are putting in charge don't want to get around these rules.
Posted by lostinbr
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Oct 2017
11907 posts
Posted on 2/6/24 at 9:39 pm to
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it says they are right at the bottom of the image.

Are you talking about the legal note that just lists protected classes?
Posted by Corinthians420
Iowa
Member since Jun 2022
13400 posts
Posted on 2/6/24 at 9:41 pm to
Just Google Disney underrepresented groups and you get this as the top result from a Disney official page

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Charitable giving that we report includes grants specifically directed towards historically underrepresented and protected communities, including the Asian Americans, Pacific Islanders, Blacks, Hispanics, Native Americans/Indigenous, and LGBTQ+ community, People with Disabilities, Veterans and Women.
Posted by dallastigers
Member since Dec 2003
8258 posts
Posted on 2/6/24 at 10:04 pm to
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Just Google Disney underrepresented groups and you get this as the top result from a Disney official page


But you said this was at the bottom of the image in the OP. You even included laughing emoticons saying it was funny I was ignoring this. Were you just laughing at yourself?

You also missed the whole evaluating what groups are underrepresented - “ Context is critical when evaluating if a group is "underrepresented." …”

Why would they need to evaluate anything if characters and featured storylines that are underrepresented in their “screen representation” have already decided by the company based on their historical groups and protected groups for hiring policies???
This post was edited on 2/6/24 at 10:12 pm
Posted by Havoc
Member since Nov 2015
34494 posts
Posted on 2/6/24 at 10:25 pm to
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Veterans are literally listed as one of the underrepresented groups

And you don’t think they do that to fake some objectivity? You believe them? Special idiot.
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