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re: Deadline: Exit Interview with Kathleen Kennedy
Posted on 1/16/26 at 11:07 am to SlowFlowPro
Posted on 1/16/26 at 11:07 am to SlowFlowPro
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That's the whole thing about his film. In isolation, outside of a franchise and, especially, a trilogy, it wasn't that bad. The hammy casino bullshite, the Mary Sue, and a few other cringe things hurts, but overall the positives would outweigh the negatives in a vacuum.
However, the movie WAS in a franchise and WAS the middle movie in a trilogy. It amplified all the bad parts of TFA and basically ended the franchise in the 2nd act of a trilogy. This has been spun into some form of subverting expectations, but it's not even that. He wanted to make his own thing and didn't give a shite about the context, which is kind of a big deal (and foreshadowing of the conflict moving onward between people wanting to be creative who rejected the confines of the IP they chose to be creative in)
Exactly. I agree almost fully with that post. I rewatched TLJ a year or two ago and it actually is much better than I remember. I even get the gripes people had with it, but they mostly didn’t bother me much outside of the Rose bullshite and the useless time spent on the planet with the racing animals and the orphans and shite. Hell, I didn’t even mind the purple hair Dern character when most people seemed to hate her universally.
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Posted on 1/16/26 at 11:17 am to RLDSC FAN
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The lows are that you’ve got a very, very small percentage of the fan base that has enormous expectations and basically they want to continue to see pretty much the same thing. And if you’re not going to do that, then you know going in that you’re going to disappoint them. I’m not sure there’s anything you can do about that, because you can’t please everybody. All you can do is try to tell good stories and try to stick to the essence of what George created.
When Disney bought Star Wars, they had a rich universe to pull stories from. But they decided to ignore and delete the Extended Universe from canon.
Fans didn't want to see the "same thing" in every new Star Wars property. But we did want to see films that felt like Star Wars, not somebody's fan fiction of Star Wars.
Andor was good
Rogue One was good
Mandalorian, for a time, was good
Solo was good, even though people kind of shite on it.
These movies and shows were good because they felt like Star Wars, and didn't shite all over the established canon, and didn't insult the fan base.
How about making more space adventures and less lesbian witch shows?
Posted on 1/16/26 at 11:43 am to BilJ
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and here's your problem
1. Lodging your head up your arse and believing its only a very small minority that thinks your product sucked when all other metrics tell you people in general thought it was crap
2. Oversimplifying it all by saying "rrrr they just want the same shite" Well yes and no, they want you to be faithful to the source material but mostly just want a fun, entertaining product. You failed there.
I'm surprised it wasn't those "manbabies", "hate groups", "the alt-right", or "Russian bots" like the media told us.
Posted on 1/16/26 at 12:32 pm to RLDSC FAN
All you can do is try to tell good stories and try to stick to the essence of what George created.
She literally did the exact fricking opposite of that. Their #1 goal was pushing an agenda.
She literally did the exact fricking opposite of that. Their #1 goal was pushing an agenda.
Posted on 1/16/26 at 2:28 pm to bcoop199
Posted on 1/16/26 at 3:01 pm to RLDSC FAN
Oh shite.
Not good.
How is that even possible?
Not good.
How is that even possible?
This post was edited on 1/16/26 at 3:03 pm
Posted on 1/16/26 at 3:57 pm to RLDSC FAN
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Yikes
Lol
One good thing since the early 80s and the new boss didn't like it. Good luck, y'all.
Posted on 1/16/26 at 4:06 pm to SlowFlowPro
Visually, The Last Jedi was a masterpiece. Anything past that is just dogshit.
It's as if Rian had all these badass scenes playing out in his mind but no way to connect them into a coherent plot so he just winged it.
I know that's not really the case, but it felt like it.
It's as if Rian had all these badass scenes playing out in his mind but no way to connect them into a coherent plot so he just winged it.
I know that's not really the case, but it felt like it.
Posted on 1/16/26 at 4:17 pm to LSUBoo
Well part of that is there are fundamental issues with how JJ did TFA, some of which were necessary to rebuild the aura from the prequels. The biggest limiting factor was creating another empire-like bad, when that made no sense. It just set up an irrational conflict, generally.
Narratively I think the 2 biggest issues in TLJ were how RJ treated Luke, which basically shat on TFA, and killing the big bad, which, if that was going to happen, should have happened in chapter 1 of the trilogy. The combination of (1) a new empire (2) no big bad and (3) Luke being marginalized just left nothing for the 3rd act.
Narratively I think the 2 biggest issues in TLJ were how RJ treated Luke, which basically shat on TFA, and killing the big bad, which, if that was going to happen, should have happened in chapter 1 of the trilogy. The combination of (1) a new empire (2) no big bad and (3) Luke being marginalized just left nothing for the 3rd act.
Posted on 1/16/26 at 4:22 pm to RLDSC FAN
Ding Dong the Witch is dead!
Posted on 1/17/26 at 9:42 am to CocomoLSU
All this idiot bitch had to do was adapt the extended universe to film
Posted on 1/17/26 at 10:36 am to biglego
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All this idiot bitch had to do was adapt the extended universe to film
Her interview was bizarre. Because she implies there was no lore.
It was all there on a silver platter to print money
Posted on 1/17/26 at 10:39 am to Jor Jor The Dinosaur
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Fear of the Death Star will keep everyone in line.
They were too proud of their technological terror they'd constructed. The ability to destroy a planet is insignificant next to the power of the Force.
Posted on 1/17/26 at 10:42 am to LSUBoo
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It's as if Rian had all these badass scenes playing out in his mind but no way to connect them into a coherent plot so he just winged it.
Rian Johnson did what he does with every film. He let his politics guide his decisions. Men/Wealthy/White = Bad/Weak, Women/Poor/Minority = Good/Powerful.
Posted on 1/17/26 at 11:06 am to biglego
quote:BioWare made a better video game than all of the sequel movies combined.
All this idiot bitch had to do was adapt the extended universe to film
And for those that don’t think TLJ was that bad, rewatch the opening scene with Domnhall and Isaac, then watch the choreography in the Snoke throne room scene and let me know how Rian let that make it to film. Was he channeling his inner Clone War arena scene?
ETA: I don’t feel like going through the whole interview right now, but she’s been living in her own galaxy, far, far away for a long time.
This post was edited on 1/17/26 at 11:10 am
Posted on 1/17/26 at 11:53 am to boogiewoogie1978
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The lows are that you’ve got a very, very small percentage of the fan base that has enormous expectations and basically they want to continue to see pretty much the same thing.
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She is in a bubble if she thinks its small. Continuing to see the same thing is called expectations. If you're winning championships you don't want to go to the gutter. These people are so out of touch.
My feelings exactly. I stopped reading at this point. Woman is clueless.
Posted on 1/17/26 at 1:01 pm to ActusHumanus
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Rian Johnson did what he does with every film. He let his politics guide his decisions. Men/Wealthy/White = Bad/Weak, Women/Poor/Minority = Good/Powerful.
I would love to know how this dynamic is exemplified in each of films. We can start with the ones that prominently feature almost only white men: Brick, Brothers Bloom, Looper, and Wake Up Dead Man.
We await your insightful analysis. Can't wait to see your thoughts on how often he has a woman in an unquestionable villain role.
Posted on 1/17/26 at 1:33 pm to RLDSC FAN
Whole lot of denial in there. Couldn’t read it all.
Posted on 1/17/26 at 6:43 pm to RLDSC FAN
Women can't ever claim they're only getting criticized for their lady parts if they're making crap projects or roles. Anyone who tries that should be openly mocked more.
Posted on 1/17/26 at 7:59 pm to SlowFlowPro
The sequels tried to avoid the world-building we saw in the prequels, and it ended up biting the filmmakers in the arse from a narrative standpoint. The biggest WTF in my mind was the fact that the New Republic seemed to be neutral in the conflict between the Resistance and the First Order. With the latter being an insurrectionist movement attempting to reconstitute imperial control over the galaxy, wouldn't it make sense for the New Republic to, I don't know, fight with the Resistance or incorporate them into their military?
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