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Bench McElroy
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David Chase confirms Tony was whacked in the final scene of The Sopranos
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In The Sopranos Sessions — a new collection of recaps, conversations, and critical essays covering every episode of the show — TV critics Alan Sepinwall and Matt Zoller Seitz share an interview with Chase in which he appeared to give more weight to the popular theory that the screen cutting to black was intended to signify Tony’s death.

Sepinwall: When you said there was an end point, you don’t mean Tony at Holsten’s, you just meant, ‘I think I have two more years’ worth of stories left in me.’

Chase: Yes, I think I had that death scene around two years before the end. I remember talking with [Sopranos writer and executive producer] Mitch Burgess about it. But it wasn’t — it was slightly different. Tony was going to get called to a meeting with Johnny Sack in Manhattan, and he was going to go back through the Lincoln Tunnel for this meeting, and it was going to go black there and you never saw him again as he was heading back, the theory being that something bad happens to him at the meeting. But we didn’t do that.

Seitz: You realize, of course, that you just referred to that as a death scene.

[A long pause follows]

Chase: F—ck you guys.


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re: David Chase confirms Tony was whacked in the final scene of The Sopranos


ETA: Chase did hedge it, of course: uproxx
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cfish140
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re: David Chase confirms Tony was whacked in the final scene of The Sopranos
I prefer this theory:

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Saw someone post it on fb today with it being the 20th anniversary and thought it was very interesting


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re: David Chase confirms Tony was whacked in the final scene of The Sopranos
Of course he got killed.


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BurningHeart
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re: David Chase confirms Tony was whacked in the final scene of The Sopranos
Glad they cleared that up for those people who denied the inevitable.


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re: David Chase confirms Tony was whacked in the final scene of The Sopranos
There are only 2 legitimate interpretations of that scene:

1. Tony gets literally whacked

2. The audience gets metaphorically whacked (from Tony's POV, which also implies Tony is whacked)

In fact, you can interpret it as both (which I do).

Everything you need is contained within the scene, although you can also harken back to shite tons of foreshadowing (you never hear the one with your name on it, etc.)

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Tactical1
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re: David Chase confirms Tony was whacked in the final scene of The Sopranos
Tony is still alive before the screen cuts to black.

Due to television death rules without seeing him die on screen at all, Tony didn't die in the finale.


jdd48
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re: David Chase confirms Tony was whacked in the final scene of The Sopranos
I remember being so pissed at that. Not at the ambiguous ending mind you. I actually thought I had lost my Direct TV signal right as the episode was ending.


gumbo2176
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re: David Chase confirms Tony was whacked in the final scene of The Sopranos
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I actually thought I had lost my Direct TV signal right as the episode was ending.


Yeah, I can see where some may have thought that. There was that long, silent pause before the credits started rolling.


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re: David Chase confirms Tony was whacked in the final scene of The Sopranos
When you look back at it now it seems so obvious that he was killed. I don’t even think it was meant to be ambiguous but chase saw the debate it caused and let it spread

I do remember the outrage it caused when it happened tho, and I had never even seen the show


gumbo2176
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re: David Chase confirms Tony was whacked in the final scene of The Sopranos
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I do remember the outrage it caused when it happened tho, and I had never even seen the show


Like many others, I followed the show and watched every episode and the ending left a bad taste in my mouth to be honest. The way it just went blank when Meadow walks into the café after taking 20 minutes to parallel park her car on the street.

The lone guy sitting at the bar in prior scenes who was often eyeing Tony's table, then the 2 black guys walking in after that, similar to the two that tried to kill him when he was going to his weekly psych sessions....

It left a lot to interpretation and how each person saw it and what conclusion they came to=====not a real definitive cut and dry finish.


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Shiftyplus1
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re: David Chase confirms Tony was whacked in the final scene of The Sopranos
No one with a brain thought that murdering sociopath lived. He was a fun protagonist to watch, but I wasn't sad to see him go.


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re: David Chase confirms Tony was whacked in the final scene of The Sopranos
Sooo...if he got whacked there, that means his whole family probably got hit with him. A.J., of course, is no great loss, but that Meadow..(in my best Sil voice)...she's some piece of ass.


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re: David Chase confirms Tony was whacked in the final scene of The Sopranos
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Sooo...if he got whacked there, that means his whole family probably got hit with him. A.J., of course, is no great loss, but that Meadow..(in my best Sil voice)...she's some piece of ass.

None of the family got wacked ... just brain splattered.

A.J has a breakdown and is committed to the looney bin.

Carmella falls apart, starts drinking heavily, ala Jackie Aprile’s wife. But she later councils Meadow because ...

Meadow leaves law and turns mafia kingpin and becomes the first female head of a family in history by circling the wagons and making a plan ... and takes revenge on those responsible for Tony’s death. The final scene in the major motion picture movie sequel is her closing the door in her boyfriend’s face as Sil and Pauly Walnuts kiss her ring in the library.
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re: David Chase confirms Tony was whacked in the final scene of The Sopranos
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Sooo...if he got whacked there, that means his whole family probably got hit with him.


No. It was unusual for family to get in the way. For a public hit like that, you use outside talent and they just walk away.

Now, it is possible - recall the collateral damage in some of the hits on the Sopranos, even (the misidentification of Phil and the real Italians killed the girlfriend, too) - but even so, I think Meadow, for sure, survives - she walks in as Tony catches the first bullet in the right temple from Members Only guy coming out of the bathroom, Michael Corleone-style.
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re: David Chase confirms Tony was whacked in the final scene of The Sopranos
easy to say now that James G has passed ...... no chance for a feature, so that's a convenient interpretation


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re: David Chase confirms Tony was whacked in the final scene of The Sopranos
watched a pretty in depth breakdown that made his death seem obvious and foreshadowed. the bell sounds at the dock when hes on the boat with bobby grabbed his attention like the bell on the door at the diner when meadow supposedly walked in. the significance of meadow taking so long to park would indicate that if shed arrived on time she wouldve been sitting between the bathroom door and tony so that the shooter (guy who walked into the bathroom) had a clean shot at tony. they ended the series in a way that kept people talking about it. love the show.


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re: David Chase confirms Tony was whacked in the final scene of The Sopranos
I believe one of the true foreshadowing scenes was with Tony and Bobby on the boat. They were talking about death and Bobby asks Tony "You probably don't hear it when it happens, right?"



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mizzoubuckeyeiowa
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re: David Chase confirms Tony was whacked in the final scene of The Sopranos
David Chase is a fricking tool.

You don't rat-frick the entire public into making this into some long mind-game where people speculate for years.

You let them watch the fricking finale and move on.

Lost respect for the show in how he treated his audience at the end.


lsuwontonwrap
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re: David Chase confirms Tony was whacked in the final scene of The Sopranos
I guess he kind of has to say that since Gandolfini died, thus eliminating any chance of Tony's return.


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