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Critical Drinker reviews The Mandalorian season 2
Posted on 12/23/20 at 8:46 am
Posted on 12/23/20 at 8:46 am
Brutal eloquent honesty with a slurry Scottish accent.
Don't click if you can't handle criticism.
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Don't click if you can't handle criticism.
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Posted on 12/23/20 at 8:53 am to emanresu
Saw it yesterday & he’s spot on about it. The formulaic stories aren’t great but not terrible either.
Posted on 12/23/20 at 9:04 am to emanresu
I have not watched season two yet but I'm told it relies heavily on nostalgia to keep fans interested in the story. A lot of characters from the animated shows and original trilogy either are hinted at or make appearances.
Posted on 12/23/20 at 9:08 am to emanresu
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can't handle criticism.
thats being a contrarian just to be contrarian. "Episode is 40 mins of busy work"? i mean for real does this guy like to be entertained? Side quests are in EVERY movie, show, game, etc.
Posted on 12/23/20 at 9:11 am to CarRamrod
it is sad that movies and shows cant be enjoyed for what they are but instead have to be nitpicked for the sake of having something to complain about. it is like people cannot be happy about anything anymore.
its like a person walking outside to a beautiful blue sky, and then complaining because there is a lone cloud in the sky.
its like a person walking outside to a beautiful blue sky, and then complaining because there is a lone cloud in the sky.
Posted on 12/23/20 at 9:13 am to Thracken13
I agree it’s all to generate clicks and crest content. I choose to ignore. I enjoyed it.
Posted on 12/23/20 at 9:22 am to AURaptor
I agree with this assessment, but this show is not trying to be something it was not intended to be. Basically this was introduced as a cereal western like the Lone Ranger set in the Star Wars universe. Most important, they have setup for the retcon of the Kennedy trilogy. They are reintroduced star wars and I disagree with him, the Luke scene at the end was very logical for a person that remembers what they call legends cannon. Luke post Jedi in the old cannon was on a quest to learn more about the Jedi Order, its traditions and its ways. Many times he was pulled back from that research to deal with something in the new republic. I remember a book years ago where Luke was looking through the basement of the old Jedi temple and found a device that could detect if a person was force sensitive.
This post was edited on 12/23/20 at 9:24 am
Posted on 12/23/20 at 9:48 am to emanresu
I’m currently in the middle of season 2 and my main nitpick with the show is dialogue. There are a lot cringe and unnecessary lines of dialogue. Also some of the actors tend to overact and be too dramatic when speaking their lines
Posted on 12/23/20 at 9:49 am to emanresu
I'll take a stab at his criticism without clicking. He doesn't like fan service. amirite?
I mean, if everyone is enjoying it then who cares what an internet dude has to say negatively about it? Do we need to be told to not like something? I can spell out my issues with S1 without ever needing someone else to tell me its flaws. I can do the same with S2. So what? I liked the first and loved the second in spite of them.
And fan service is part of Star Wars. What makes it work is if they deftly handle the characters and make it feel organic, which this did. What makes it fail is feeling forced into the story to the point that it doesn't make sense, which Eps1-3 did.
I mean, if everyone is enjoying it then who cares what an internet dude has to say negatively about it? Do we need to be told to not like something? I can spell out my issues with S1 without ever needing someone else to tell me its flaws. I can do the same with S2. So what? I liked the first and loved the second in spite of them.
And fan service is part of Star Wars. What makes it work is if they deftly handle the characters and make it feel organic, which this did. What makes it fail is feeling forced into the story to the point that it doesn't make sense, which Eps1-3 did.
Posted on 12/23/20 at 9:58 am to FreddieMac
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Most important, they have setup for the retcon of the Kennedy trilogy. They are reintroduced star wars and I disagree with him, the Luke scene at the end was very logical for a person that remembers what they call legends cannon. Luke post Jedi in the old cannon was on a quest to learn more about the Jedi Order, its traditions and its ways.
This isn’t a retcon, we are just actually seeing it on screen now. Thats basically what Luke does in the canon books/comics. He’s looking at artifacts and exploring Force stuff. In Battlefront II you meet him as you both find one of the Emperor’s storage facilities.r
Posted on 12/23/20 at 10:33 am to emanresu
His observations were similar to mine, but mine are less harsh and I appreciate enjoy the fan service/nostalgia more.
The season take a number of episodes before it gets its footing - agreed
There are some filler/side quest episodes that really don't advance the story - agreed
There are some unanswered questions - agreed.
Lots of fan service/nostalgia - agreed.
However, he doesn't necessarily shite on it (or the last scenes of the last episode). He understands why fans have reacted as they have to it. But, to use his battered wife analogy, he's cautious about buying that "he's changed" because of what Filoni and Favreau have done so far.
The season take a number of episodes before it gets its footing - agreed
There are some filler/side quest episodes that really don't advance the story - agreed
There are some unanswered questions - agreed.
Lots of fan service/nostalgia - agreed.
However, he doesn't necessarily shite on it (or the last scenes of the last episode). He understands why fans have reacted as they have to it. But, to use his battered wife analogy, he's cautious about buying that "he's changed" because of what Filoni and Favreau have done so far.
Posted on 12/23/20 at 12:17 pm to emanresu
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Don't click if you can't handle criticism.
I'll pass, ignorance is bliss. I really enjoyed the season.
Posted on 12/23/20 at 12:19 pm to emanresu
a show that's formulaic? The horror.
Posted on 12/23/20 at 12:37 pm to Byron Bojangles III
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a show that's formulaic? The horror.
That is the critical drinkers main criticism of most things. Honestly, I only listen to him because he is a good writer and the Scottish stuff is hilarious.
Posted on 12/23/20 at 1:19 pm to Byron Bojangles III
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a show that's formulaic? The horror.
The last video of his that someone posted on here was his poorly researched video complaining that comic heroes were moving away from formula.
I wonder if there's a chance he just has no idea what the hell he's talking about. "I hate subversion in established properties." "Wait, now I hate traditional hero archetypes in established properties. This needs some Subversion."
I'll go ahead and act like the critical drinker, working from only the few examples I've seen and wholly uninterested in educating myself further once I've made up my mind: Dude's an idiot.
Posted on 12/23/20 at 1:25 pm to Jay Are
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Dude's an idiot.
His videos are just formulaic.
Posted on 12/23/20 at 2:19 pm to Midget Death Squad
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I'll take a stab at his criticism without clicking. He doesn't like fan service. amirite?
He said it was fine as long as they do something with it, ( likely they won't ) and it's not just a token gesture ( which it may be ).
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I mean, if everyone is enjoying it then who cares what an internet dude has to say negatively about it? Do we need to be told to not like something? I can spell out my issues with S1 without ever needing someone else to tell me its flaws. I can do the same with S2. So what? I liked the first and loved the second in spite of them.
It's not an either or situation. You really need to watch the video, but in short, Mando is better than what we've seen w/ the sequels, but it's Disney he really takes a dig at ( overly merchandizing in place of telling a solid story ) And if this all ends up with the incredible wonder Rey, the bestest evar, then all this praising of OG Luke is just a head fake.
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And fan service is part of Star Wars. What makes it work is if they deftly handle the characters and make it feel organic, which this did. What makes it fail is feeling forced into the story to the point that it doesn't make sense, which Eps1-3 did.
Yes, THIS time, it was done right. But where was that same level of respect for good fan service with the sequels? Not one scene with Han, Luke and Leia in 9 freaking hours of movie. And no, it wasn't because Carrie Fisher died before they had a chance, Disney purposefully subverted expectations because they wanted to ship the old school characters to storage and focus on the new ones.
This post was edited on 12/23/20 at 3:47 pm
Posted on 12/23/20 at 3:35 pm to emanresu
I like the Drinker, but he’s turned into a jaded bastard about everything and doesn’t do his research.
Didn’t get the Operation Cinder reference and thought it was just Stormtrooper revenge. Yikes. Total fail on that criticism.
Didn’t get the Operation Cinder reference and thought it was just Stormtrooper revenge. Yikes. Total fail on that criticism.
Posted on 12/23/20 at 4:31 pm to emanresu
Great analogy and as always he’s spot on.
Posted on 12/23/20 at 4:39 pm to emanresu
He is entertaining but he is increasingly falling into the "I get a lot more views for when I mock something than when I praise it." He is becoming professionally indignant.
CD is not the only one. There is a whole subset of the YouTube critic brigade who make a decent chunk of change for pooping on everything and every now and then saying something was good. They generate views by gutting shows and movies.
Granted... a lot of those shows and movies need to be gutted.
He is working his gimmick. I agree with some points he makes, not only on this show but others, and think he's pulling things out of his bum just to be edgy on others. Its the nature of audience he is playing too.
CD is not the only one. There is a whole subset of the YouTube critic brigade who make a decent chunk of change for pooping on everything and every now and then saying something was good. They generate views by gutting shows and movies.
Granted... a lot of those shows and movies need to be gutted.
He is working his gimmick. I agree with some points he makes, not only on this show but others, and think he's pulling things out of his bum just to be edgy on others. Its the nature of audience he is playing too.
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