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re: Critical Drinker reviews The Mandalorian season 2
Posted on 12/23/20 at 7:36 pm to RollTide1987
Posted on 12/23/20 at 7:36 pm to RollTide1987
quote:It doesn't really rely on it, but the show runners seem to think that they need to do it to keep people interested, or to make it better. It's actually annoying at times.
I'm told it relies heavily on nostalgia to keep fans interested in the story
If you like classic Star Wars or the animated series, it's a great show. Otherwise, it's a decent show.
Posted on 12/23/20 at 8:16 pm to Arksulli
He's not wrong but I'm perfectly fine with what the show has done so far. After the sequels destroyed what Star Wars is fan service was a welcome change.
Posted on 12/23/20 at 8:23 pm to RollTide1987
quote:indont think it relies, just takes place during a time in the story where significant things in the saga take place
but I'm told it relies heavily on nostalgia to keep fans interested in the story
Posted on 12/23/20 at 9:57 pm to bcoop199
I think "fan service" is a tired, lazy criticism. The self-schooled internet critics always act like we have only 2 choices: 1) "Subverting expectations;" or 2) "Fan Service."
But there's another way: continuity.
It's really funny that in the MCU, Hobbit-World, or any other franchise, it's called "Universe-building" when a franchise makes callbacks and references and incorporates old characters or sites. But in Star Wars, "universe building" gets attacked as "fan service."
But there's another way: continuity.
It's really funny that in the MCU, Hobbit-World, or any other franchise, it's called "Universe-building" when a franchise makes callbacks and references and incorporates old characters or sites. But in Star Wars, "universe building" gets attacked as "fan service."
Posted on 12/23/20 at 10:56 pm to PowerTool
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It's really funny that in the MCU, Hobbit-World, or any other franchise, it's called "Universe-building" when a franchise makes callbacks and references and incorporates old characters or sites. But in Star Wars, "universe building" gets attacked as "fan service."
Neither of those habitually brought back nostalgic characters for a cameo episode solely to introduce them for a later series.
Posted on 12/24/20 at 8:23 am to emanresu
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I enjoyed season 2, but I agree with his points, especially two in particular:
1. The stories are VERY formulaic. "Go do this thing for me" is very prevalent.
2. It relies a LOT on nostalgia and fandom. Having one or two name drops would have been fine; you get 3 massive ones and a few minor ones, and the three massive ones (Ahsoka Tano, Boba Fett, Luke Skywalker) are just a bit much in an 8 episode season. At this rate you half expect season 3 to open with Yoda's ghost getting coffee with Mace Windu.
That said, it's still enjoyable television and better than a lot of shows out there. I think he's right in that a lot of these names were pumped into the show to kickstart their own shows, and I worry Disney is about to oversaturate everything.
I enjoyed season 2, but I agree with his points, especially two in particular:
1. The stories are VERY formulaic. "Go do this thing for me" is very prevalent.
2. It relies a LOT on nostalgia and fandom. Having one or two name drops would have been fine; you get 3 massive ones and a few minor ones, and the three massive ones (Ahsoka Tano, Boba Fett, Luke Skywalker) are just a bit much in an 8 episode season. At this rate you half expect season 3 to open with Yoda's ghost getting coffee with Mace Windu.
That said, it's still enjoyable television and better than a lot of shows out there. I think he's right in that a lot of these names were pumped into the show to kickstart their own shows, and I worry Disney is about to oversaturate everything.
Posted on 12/24/20 at 8:25 am to emanresu
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It's really funny that in the MCU, Hobbit-World, or any other franchise, it's called "Universe-building" when a franchise makes callbacks and references and incorporates old characters or sites. But in Star Wars, "universe building" gets attacked as "fan service."
Neither of those habitually brought back nostalgic characters for a cameo episode solely to introduce them for a later series.
This.
Imagine if, in Iron Man, you meet Thor, Captain America, Black Widow, Hawkeye, Hulk, and Black Panther (all prior to them having their own movies)? That's more or less what this is doing.
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