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re: Cobra Kai GOAT Season 4 thread.....

Posted on 1/6/22 at 11:35 pm to
Posted by saintsfan92612
Taiwan
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Posted on 1/6/22 at 11:35 pm to
that is pretty much my exact feeling. The drama is so forced but I can't stop watching it.
Posted by SEClint
New Orleans, LA/Portland, OR
Member since Nov 2006
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Posted on 1/7/22 at 12:10 am to
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Silver went from trying to talk sense into kreese to be crazier then him so fast.


He doesn't think he's crazy. And he's not wrong from his POV.

He thought that they were on the same page, he had already went all in. He was in a way humiliated by what he came to see as a hypocrite. Very quickly realized he was being used.

This reminded him, his life was better without Kreese. He didnt out crazy him, he outsmarted him and got rid of him. Terry isn't crazy, listen to his exact speech after Kenny beat Robby and Silver won the beer bet between him and Kreese.

As soon as Kreese picked Robby, Terry knew exactly what he was going to do. He is great at reading people and making strategic decisions. He owned both Robby and Kreese in that 1 moment, the two strongest in the school.

Its actually scary that he's sober, may make him less sloppy.
This post was edited on 1/7/22 at 12:49 am
Posted by WicKed WayZ
Louisiana Forever
Member since Sep 2011
33411 posts
Posted on 1/7/22 at 12:36 am to
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Hawk is hands down the best character in the show.



He’s been my favorite ever since he showed up back at Cobra Kai with the Mohawk, even when he was being a shite head.

He’s also the best actor out of the teens outside of Peyton List who plays Tori. They’re both really good. The rest are passable. Miguel has chops but his actor seemed checked out this season. Sam is ok but she overacts a lot. Robby is getting better. Kenny’s actor was a highlight. The rest are just faces
Posted by WicKed WayZ
Louisiana Forever
Member since Sep 2011
33411 posts
Posted on 1/7/22 at 12:40 am to
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He doesn't think he's crazy. And he's not wrong from his POV


No he’s not wrong. He’s way better as a sensei than Kreese. Every bit of advice he gave to each student was perfect and suited for what they needed, whereas Kreese was always one dimensional with his device.

Silver owned Kreese this season and it’s exactly why he’s head of Cobra Kai now
Posted by LSUlefty
Youngsville, LA
Member since Dec 2007
28214 posts
Posted on 1/7/22 at 6:07 am to
The best scene in Season 4 IMO was Silver telling Kreese about their weaknesses. Kreese was his weakness because he saved him from execution in Vietnam. He could never repay that debt.
Posted by Buckeye Backer
Columbus, Ohio
Member since Aug 2009
9446 posts
Posted on 1/7/22 at 7:17 am to
I just went back and watched Karate Kid III and i totally forgot how bad Mike Barnes kicked LaRusso's arse!! With Kreese out of the way for now, Silver's Cobra Kai with Barnes will become a force. If you remember, Silver made Barnes "Win a point, lose a point...inflict pain". Daniel never scored a single point..not even a forward attack... in regular time, while Barnes technically scored enough points to win if he didn't "lose a point". Barnes completely dominated Daniel in that fight and was easily the better fighter. It wasn't even comparable to the Johnny vs Daniel fight. With Barnes back, they are going to need Chozen to expose the truth...the whole truth...about Miyagi-Do...if they're going to win the All-Valley!!

With Chozen back in the fold, it makes me wonder if we will see Kumiko return...or even the return of Daniel's 3rd love interest Jessica Andrews (Robyn Lively) now that Mike Barnes will be back?

Lastly, does anybody get the vibe that Daniel and Amanda don't make it as a couple? That this feud causes too much damage and creates irreparable damage to their marriage? Amanda is awake and realizes what she has created. She feels more sympathy and compassion for Tori than she does Samantha...thus the reason why she told Daniel the story about when she was arrested...and why!! Too many secrets are coming out from both of their pasts. Probably looking too much into it, but something just feels off there.
This post was edited on 1/7/22 at 7:23 am
Posted by saintsfan92612
Taiwan
Member since Oct 2008
30057 posts
Posted on 1/7/22 at 7:37 am to
yeah, Daniel had a rough go in Karate Kid 3. Got kicked in the nuts, punched in the face after time was called, kicked repeatedly in the back resulting in no points...

but seriously, what is wrong with the LAPD. They get a shop vandalized and 2 kids are assaulted, and Daniel is able to provide proof of motive and they just laugh him out of the station? Then they had tens of thousands of dollars worth of bonsai trees stolen. Then the next day when they are going to get the tree, they basically had intent to kill if Daniel did not comply and sign the papers.

Then in this show, how many of these kids should've been behind bars (besides Robby).
This post was edited on 1/7/22 at 7:39 am
Posted by LSUlefty
Youngsville, LA
Member since Dec 2007
28214 posts
Posted on 1/7/22 at 7:39 am to
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does anybody get the vibe that Daniel and Amanda don't make it as a couple?


I hope they don't go that route
Posted by LSUDAN1
Member since Oct 2010
10875 posts
Posted on 1/7/22 at 1:28 pm to
With the closing of Eagle Fang and Miyagi-Do, do they reopen under Sato's Dojo. Would loved for them to brin it back and be more badazz than Cobra Kai.
Posted by WicKed WayZ
Louisiana Forever
Member since Sep 2011
33411 posts
Posted on 1/7/22 at 1:55 pm to
Yeah I feel like they’re leaning towards Johnny and Daniel opening a new dojo under a different name, not Miyagi or Eagle Fang
Posted by LSUlefty
Youngsville, LA
Member since Dec 2007
28214 posts
Posted on 1/7/22 at 2:06 pm to
My prediction is Johnny & Robby go looking for Miguel, Daniel works with Anthony and Chozen takes over the Dojos. Also Cobra Kai expands all over the valley with the help of Mike Barnes. Not sure where that leaves Kreese however.
Posted by Oates Mustache
Member since Oct 2011
25984 posts
Posted on 1/7/22 at 2:36 pm to
I'm so torn on the Kreese possible redemption coming. His character is a crazed guy that hasn't dealt with his obvious PTSD from Vietnam, so maybe that gives him a shot at redemption? I love Martin Kove as a person too, so I'm leaning toward redemption.
This post was edited on 1/7/22 at 2:37 pm
Posted by SEClint
New Orleans, LA/Portland, OR
Member since Nov 2006
49476 posts
Posted on 1/7/22 at 2:36 pm to
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I just went back and watched Karate Kid III and i totally forgot how bad Mike Barnes kicked LaRusso's arse!! 
yeah, he totally owned him.

After daniel learning everything he had learned, Mike breezed through the other competition and toyed with daniel in the final. Purposely losing points.

Mike was a national champion, it doesn't get much higher than that for a 17 year old.
Posted by BradBallard
Wilmington, Delaware
Member since Jun 2020
536 posts
Posted on 1/7/22 at 2:40 pm to
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My prediction is Johnny & Robby go looking for Miguel, Daniel works with Anthony and Chozen takes over the Dojos. Also Cobra Kai expands all over the valley with the help of Mike Barnes. Not sure where that leaves Kreese however.


I don’t see Kreese come whimpering back to Silver if he gets out of jail. I also agree Barnes will be back, and Shawn will join his brother Kenny at Cobra Kai and become the big baddie.

They’ve teased the aggressive side of Miyagi Do karate for two seasons. Look for Chozen to bring that side to the Dojos. Chozen may now have a kinder, gentler side to him, but, he was ruthless when he was Sato’s muscle and has the cash and the chops to go toe to toe with Silver.
Posted by FreddieMac
Baton Rouge
Member since Jun 2010
24836 posts
Posted on 1/7/22 at 2:42 pm to
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that is pretty much my exact feeling. The drama is so forced but I can't stop watching it.



The 70's beating everyone's asses is simply hilarious and unrealistic. Seriously, 50 something Johnny gets his arse kicked by 74 year old Crease/Silver. Not buying it one bit.
Posted by FreddieMac
Baton Rouge
Member since Jun 2010
24836 posts
Posted on 1/7/22 at 4:02 pm to
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Cobra Kai expands all over the valley with the help of Mike Barnes.


Ok, this is the worse villan of the entire series. After fighting to the death in Okinawa I am suppose to believe that Daniel was more scared of Barnes than Chozen. Its laughable. That third KK movie was complete trash.
Posted by SEClint
New Orleans, LA/Portland, OR
Member since Nov 2006
49476 posts
Posted on 1/7/22 at 4:03 pm to
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Not sure where that leaves Kreese however.


To eventually team with Daniel and Chozen. Daniel may can bail him out if he gets word of what happened..seems he could afford the 1/10.

Kreese dealing with his past and dealing with himself.. Kreese learning Miyagi-Do and ultimately defeating Terry with it.

Finding some peace in his life, visiting the grave of his former lover, and patching things up with Johnny.
This post was edited on 1/7/22 at 4:12 pm
Posted by SEClint
New Orleans, LA/Portland, OR
Member since Nov 2006
49476 posts
Posted on 1/7/22 at 4:15 pm to
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After fighting to the death in Okinawa I am suppose to believe that Daniel was more scared of Barnes than Chozen. 


If it had been a fight to the death with Barnes, Daniel knows he would have died. Barnes easily handed him his arse after Daniel leveled up as far as he could go.
Posted by SEClint
New Orleans, LA/Portland, OR
Member since Nov 2006
49476 posts
Posted on 1/7/22 at 4:28 pm to
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Chozen may now have a kinder, gentler side to him, but, he was ruthless when he was Sato’s muscle and has the cash and the chops to go toe to toe with Silver.
If Chozen respects you its all good.

But once Tori tells the Larussos about Terry's treachery, paying off the ref for fear of losing..he will not honor a bet made with a coward. And he would Handle Terry as easily as Myagi did.
Posted by CocomoLSU
Inside your dome.
Member since Feb 2004
155381 posts
Posted on 1/7/22 at 6:00 pm to
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Ok, this is the worse villan of the entire series. After fighting to the death in Okinawa I am suppose to believe that Daniel was more scared of Barnes than Chozen. Its laughable. That third KK movie was complete trash.

KK3 isn’t anywhere near the level of the original, or even 2. But it’s cheesy good in its own right. And Mike Barnes is the most skilled out of anyone in the entire trilogy (closest is Dutch, maybe Chozen).

So while it’s the weakest of the trilogy, Terry Silver alone makes it worth it. And he’s back. And at this point the way they’ve handled the show, you HAVE to bring Barnes back. And Snake too, assuming he’s still an actor. The two worst things about KK3 are Daniel being automatically in the finals (and they addressed that this season), and the “love interest” friend-zoning Daniel (although who can blame her?).
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