re: Christopher Nolan - Interstellar

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Great fricking movie. That said i turn on subtitles. I actually watch 99% of my movies with subtitles now simply because I hate missing shite

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It started with having loud arse kids and not wanting to miss anything, and now I have subtitles on for everything except live sports.

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It's my favorite movie ever. It hits every point I enjoy in a movie. Science, Space, Mathematics, Score, Love Story, etc.

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I fricking love a good ole fashioned romantic math movie.

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So you buy Ann Hathaway being so in love with Bryan Cranston that she fricks everybody out of years of their lives to be with him?

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Ann Hathaway's lover was on the third planet, not Dr Mann's. What are you talking about?

My apologies. It wasn’t Mann she was in love with? I guess they did go there 2nd, though. Still, you think Ann Hathaway would be in love with Bryan Cranston at all?

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Great fricking movie. That said i turn on subtitles. I actually watch 99% of my movies with subtitles

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I’ve seen it several times, but last week, I talked my daughter into watching it. She loved it. We turned on the subtitles this time (never done it), I got a whole new view of the movie.

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you missed something in the movie because that is partly their reasoning for picking it, it had promising data to support human life, and the other planets were much further away which is riskier for their mission.

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This doesn’t stand up to scrutiny. The plan was to be there for seven years even though it would feel like a half an hour to the crew. Mann’s planet was 3 months away while Brandt’s boyfriend was a year away. If both of those fail, you can still arrive back at the water planet in time before the crew planned on returning in the movie. This is something that just doesn’t add up. The logical path was Mann’s (Mann being a coward chose this planet intentionally thinking they’d go to his first if he failed), then Brandt’s, and then the water planet as a last resort. Instead of that taking an estimated 10 years, they just blew it.

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I think they miscalculated how close the black hole was or their post tidal wave evacuation caused them to stay on the water planet longer burning more time than they expected.

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They correctly calculated how much Gargantua would warp time, so I don’t think they made this error.

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this is a tough paradox. the dust was already being influenced to collect forming a message for murph/cooper even before he even got nasa coordinates, they had been studying dust collection 'ghosts' for a while.

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Here’s the problem with Cooper sending the NASA coordinates to himself: he wouldn’t have been in the situation he was in if he was left to his own devices. You can narrowly push your past self in a direction you were going in already, but nothing to that extreme. Cooper would have gone regardless of the STAY or finding the constant in Gargantua, but it’s impossible for him to tell himself to go somewhere he wouldn’t have gone. The only path I can see is another Cooper from another reality gets into the Tesseract and then gives Cooper the coordinates which our Cooper then repeats himself years later. Interstellar follows LOST time travel logic on whatever happened happened. Like in LOST Faraday is able to influence his mother on events that would happen to him, but not directly himself.

I'll jump in here with this graphic that is the best explanation of the paradox I have ever seen.


MAKING SENSE OF INTERSTELLAR’S PLOT

There's a bunch of other stuff explained in the article leading to this conclusion:

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The Tesseract sent the NASA coordinates to Cooper the very first time, which led to the events where they found themselves in the Tesseract. Remember, the Tesseract is an AI built with the purpose of making small changes to the timeline of the beings, in order to save humanity from the future that the beings once occupied.

Having chosen Cooper and Murphy, the Tesseract sends the first NASA coordinates to Cooper. The coordinates given to Cooper by the Tesseract changed humanity’s timeline a second time (the wormhole was the first change) and made Cooper go on the mission with NASA.

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I love this video that shows how Nolan inspired Hans Zimmer to write the music for Interstellar.

LINK

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On the other hand, I have never once struggled with Nolan’s dialogue in a single movie. When people complain I never pick up on it.

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Seen Tenet? I didn’t understand a single word Kenneth Branagh said.

I just still can’t make sense of it. STAY and Plan A work for me, but Nolan just overly complicated it with Coop sending himself to the NASA base when such an easy solution was viable: just have NASA come to him. The pilot dies from whatever cause and Cooper is the only one who can now do it and they have an extremely limited launch window since they have to slingshot off of Mars and Jupiter towards Saturn. And I’m a person who understands this 5th dimensional shite, so I can’t imagine how confusing it is for the 95% of people that don’t.