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Catch 22, George Clooney produced Hulu original

Posted on 5/8/19 at 7:33 am
Posted by blueboy
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Posted on 5/8/19 at 7:33 am
Anyone hear anything about this? The novel is one of the best books of the 20th century, but the film starring Alan Arkin didn't really do it justice. Honestly, I'm not sure any film medium can. Pulp fiction successfully employed the same anti-chronological story structure, but the general feel and mindset is a lot different with this story.

I guess I can see some ways they could create a continuous series out of it, but I'm not sure if it would be very interesting.

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Posted by Ace Midnight
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Posted on 5/8/19 at 7:43 am to
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but the film starring Alan Arkin didn't really do it justice.


The film is great in its own way, particularly with the benefit of hindsight. The acting performances alone are worth watching.

Normally Mike Nichols > Robert Altman, BUT with anti-war, black comedies of 1970, Altman (M*A*S*H) clearly won that battle.

Also, I think this Hulu/Clooney project is going to be a miniseries to tell the narrative story of the novel, at least generally (like the film M*A*S*H), rather than be an open ended divergent narrative with the same characters and setting.
Posted by OlGrandad
Member since Oct 2009
3498 posts
Posted on 5/8/19 at 7:53 am to
So many great lines.

quote:


Where the hell's my parachute?
All right, which one of you bastards stole my parachute?
Hello, this is the bombardier here. We gotta turn back.
Posted by Erin Go Bragh
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Posted on 5/8/19 at 8:26 am to
The Joseph Heller book was an absolute masterpiece. Yossarian will always be one of my favorite literary characters.


Posted by Ace Midnight
Between sanity and madness
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89551 posts
Posted on 5/8/19 at 9:26 am to
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Morale was deteriorating and it was all Yossarian's fault. The country was in peril; he was jeopardizing his traditional rights of freedom and independence by daring to exercise them.
Posted by blueboy
Member since Apr 2006
56369 posts
Posted on 5/8/19 at 10:12 am to
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The film is great in its own way, particularly with the benefit of hindsight. The acting performances alone are worth watching.

I don't think the film really got it. The way the actors performed the dialog for the "greatest catch there is" or other thematically expository scenes indicated to me that they didn't really understand the material.

Although, Arkin flailed around the bombardier station and screamed into the intercom exactly as I'd pictured it while reading the novel.

I hope Clooney at least got a big, blonde Germanic girl to be his WAC.
Posted by Tigris
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Posted on 5/8/19 at 11:51 am to
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Nurse Duckett found Yossarian wonderful and was already trying to change him.
Posted by teke184
Zachary, LA
Member since Jan 2007
95749 posts
Posted on 5/8/19 at 12:03 pm to
So... any chances they change one set of arc words in the story, “Where are the Snowdens of yesteryear?”

Let’s just say it has a different context than in the 1960s.
Posted by TigersFan64
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Oct 2014
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Posted on 5/8/19 at 1:20 pm to
It's indeed a great book. One of the funniest books I've ever read. I particularly laughed at the part describing Major Major Major Major's trials.
Posted by TigersFan64
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Member since Oct 2014
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Posted on 5/8/19 at 1:22 pm to
"That's some catch, that Catch-22."

"It's the best there is."
Posted by Kafka
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Member since Jul 2007
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Posted on 5/8/19 at 1:42 pm to
Yossarian looked at him soberly and tried another approach. ‘Is Orr crazy?’
‘He sure is,’ Doc Daneeka said.
‘Can you ground him?’
‘I sure can. But first he has to ask me to. That’s part of the rule.’
‘Then why doesn’t he ask you to?’
‘Because he’s crazy,’ Doc Daneeka said. ‘He has to be crazy to keep flying combat missions after all the close calls he’s had. Sure, I can ground Orr. But first he has to ask me to.’
‘That’s all he has to do to be grounded?’
‘That’s all. Let him ask me.’
‘And then you can ground him?’ Yossarian asked.
‘No. Then I can’t ground him.’
‘You mean there’s a catch?’
‘Sure there’s a catch,’ Doc Daneeka replied. ‘Catch-22. Anyone who wants to get out of combat duty isn’t really crazy.’

There was only one catch and that was Catch-22, which specified that a concern for one's safety in the face of dangers that were real and immediate was the process of a rational mind. Orr was crazy and could be grounded. All he had to do was ask; and as soon as he did, he would no longer be crazy and would have to fly more missions. Orr would be crazy to fly more missions and sane if he didn't, but if he was sane he had to fly them. If he flew them he was crazy and didn't have to; but if he didn't want to he was sane and had to. Yossarian was moved very deeply by the absolute simplicity of this clause of Catch-22 and let out a respectful whistle.

'That's some catch, that Catch-22,' He observed.

'It's the best there is,' Doc Daneeka agreed.
Posted by Tiger Voodoo
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Member since Mar 2007
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Posted on 5/8/19 at 1:46 pm to
“The case against Clevinger was open and shut. The only thing missing was something to charge him with."
Posted by Kafka
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Posted on 5/8/19 at 1:52 pm to
Posted by blueboy
Member since Apr 2006
56369 posts
Posted on 5/8/19 at 2:18 pm to
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Yossarian and Orr were both at Milo’s side when they rode into the city of Palermo from the airport and discovered that there was no room for the two of them at the hotel there either, and, more important, that Milo was mayor.

The weird, implausible reception for Milo began at the airfield, where civilian laborers who recognized him halted in their duties respectfully to gaze at him with full expressions of controlled exuberance and adulation. News of his arrival preceded him into the city, and the outskirts were already crowded with cheering citizens as they sped by in their small uncovered truck. Yossarian and Orr were mystified and mute and pressed close against Milo for security.
Posted by Sayre
Felixville
Member since Nov 2011
5508 posts
Posted on 5/8/19 at 2:19 pm to
I really liked the original movie.
Posted by TigersFan64
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Oct 2014
4755 posts
Posted on 5/8/19 at 8:42 pm to
The government paid him well for every bushel of alfalfa he did not grow. The more alfalfa he did not grow, the more money the government gave him, and he spent every penny he didn’t earn on new land to increase the amount of alfalfa he did not produce. Major Major’s father worked without rest at not growing alfalfa.”

“At the state university he took his studies so seriously that he was suspected by the homosexuals of being a Communist and suspected by the Communists of being a
homosexual. He majored in English history, which was a mistake.”

“People who had hardly noticed his resemblance to Henry Fonda before now never ceased discussing it, and there were even those who hinted sinisterly that Major Major had been elevated to squadron commander because he resembled Henry Fonda. Captain Black, who had aspired to the position himself, maintained that Major Major really was Henry Fonda but was too chickenshit to admit it.”

Posted by scrooster
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Member since Jul 2012
37655 posts
Posted on 5/8/19 at 10:30 pm to
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The Joseph Heller book was an absolute masterpiece. Yossarian will always be one of my favorite literary characters.

I loved the book too and it was must read back in the day.

I can see maybe Clooney pulling this off as Yossarian. I thought the 70s movie was over most people’s heads at the time .... including mine.

This thing premieres on Hulu on 17 May.
Posted by Jcorye1
Tom Brady = GoAT
Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 5/14/19 at 1:41 pm to
This looks fantastic. I'm excited.
Posted by Obtuse1
Westside Bodymore Yo
Member since Sep 2016
25671 posts
Posted on 5/17/19 at 7:46 am to
PSA it was released today. Finished the first episode, it has promise.
Posted by JPLSU1981
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2005
26274 posts
Posted on 5/22/19 at 9:39 pm to
Watched the first couple episodes.

I’m in love with Yo-yo
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