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Posted on 10/16/22 at 8:57 am to Frac the world
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Oh and btw, detention sends you into the dark forest where you can be killed by a werewolf, giant spiders, or centaurs
Not to mention with the centaurs that they’re a very rapey bunch, which is implicitly awesome for Umbridge’s fate.
Posted on 10/16/22 at 8:58 am to ClesiandSlicedBread
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yearly Harry Potter thread which dissects the logical fallicies
OML just jizzed in his pants.
Posted on 10/16/22 at 9:00 am to LSUMJ
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Do guns not exist in the magical world?
Wizards are aware of them. They lie to the Muggle public that Sirius is heavily armed so they know to approach him with extreme caution should he be found.
Posted on 10/16/22 at 9:03 am to StringedInstruments
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The reason why there’s not a major issue with guys raping girls using magic spells is that wizards don’t think about sex the same way we do.
By the way, Fred and George were selling rape potions to teenagers. If they had been sent to Azkaban for that, Fred would still be alive.
Posted on 10/16/22 at 9:43 am to ClesiandSlicedBread
How do they explain the school to muggle parents?
An owl just shows up and you're supposed to let your kid go to some school you never heard of?
An owl just shows up and you're supposed to let your kid go to some school you never heard of?
Posted on 10/16/22 at 9:56 am to Napoleon
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How do they explain the school to muggle parents?
An owl just shows up and you're supposed to let your kid go to some school you never heard of?
A professor goes there personally to explain the situation. They initially just assumed with Harry that the Dursleys told him the truth about his parents, but when they found out they didn’t, they then sent Hagrid to bust down the door. You see it in the books and the films with Dumbledore telling a young Voldemort of his powers, and Dumbledore was initially going to tour Tom through Diagon Alley, but he wanted to do it alone.
Posted on 10/16/22 at 10:49 am to drexyl
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Sorcerer's Stone - the best wizards that exist in the wizarding world design a series of magical traps that were easily foiled by three sixth graders on their first try with lessons they actually learned in class that year - in the sixth fricking grade.
I mean, this is just a children's book trope that happens all the time and isn’t special to Harry Potter, why critique this when there are actual logical fallacies in the story?
Two big ones.
1. Harry is so important to the wizarding world and Dumbledore in particular, but nobody realized the Dursleys were mistreating him and refusing to teach him anything about his world? How is that possible?
2. The most obvious is the Time Turners introduced in story 3, the existence of a device to travel back in time ruins the whole story. Especially since they are so easily accessible, why were they not used to stop Voldemort years ago? Rowling even realized she screwed up with those when they were all conveniently destroyed in book 5 and could not be replaced.
Posted on 10/16/22 at 11:00 am to Tiger1242
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Harry is so important to the wizarding world and Dumbledore in particular, but nobody realized the Dursleys were mistreating him and refusing to teach him anything about his world? How is that possible?
Is more that they just let it happen than didn't realize, but also,
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this is just a children's book trope that happens all the time and isn’t special to Harry Potter,
Posted on 10/16/22 at 12:58 pm to ClesiandSlicedBread
None of those are logical fallacies.
You keep using this word....
You keep using this word....
Posted on 10/16/22 at 1:14 pm to saintsfan92612
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despite the existence of squibs and mudbloods, the ministry of magic still has Arthur Weasley in charge of finding out how Muggle technology works
And he’s objectively shitty at it.
Posted on 10/16/22 at 1:39 pm to saintsfan92612
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despite the existence of squibs and mudbloods, the ministry of magic still has Arthur Weasley in charge of finding out how Muggle technology works
That’s not his job, that’s his hobby. His job is fixing muggle things that wizards made magical to frick with muggles. The name of his group is Misuse of Muggle Artifacts. That’s why his wife gives him shite about turning his car magical because he wrote a loophole in the law to allow him to do it.
There is a lot of stuff in this thread wrong because it is explained a lot better in the books.
This post was edited on 10/16/22 at 1:41 pm
Posted on 10/16/22 at 1:43 pm to LSUMJ
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They start Hogwarts at age 11. Do they not go to school before that? Do they ever learn math or English history or literacy? Surely someone has seen kids run into a wall at the train station. No cameras
They go to normal schools or home school. This whole plot is built more around the British school system where a lot of kids go to boarding schools around 11. See Dudley and going off to Smeltings when Harry goes to Hogwarts. Harry would have went to a local secondary where he would have stayed at home if he wasn’t a wizard.
This post was edited on 10/16/22 at 1:46 pm
Posted on 10/16/22 at 1:48 pm to Tiger1242
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Harry is so important to the wizarding world and Dumbledore in particular, but nobody realized the Dursleys were mistreating him and refusing to teach him anything about his world? How is that possible?
They did know and Dumbledore wrote to Petunia once about the mistreatment in the books. JK attempted to address why he had to stay there by using the fact that he was residing with his mother’s blood relatives as an means that allowed him to continue the charm she placed on him when she died. It apparently was a super powerful love charm…. Molly Weasley went to Dumbledore about him coming live with them, but he had to go there for a short time each summer to keep the charm going.
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Posted on 10/16/22 at 1:57 pm to ClesiandSlicedBread
None of the examples are logical fallacies. They're all just ridiculously unsafe scenarios.
Posted on 10/16/22 at 3:10 pm to emanresu
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None of the examples are logical fallacies.
Congrats on acing your Philosophy 101 class. Glad you were finally able to put it to good use.
Posted on 10/16/22 at 6:51 pm to Dam Guide
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They did know and Dumbledore wrote to Petunia once about the mistreatment in the books. JK attempted to address why he had to stay there by using the fact that he was residing with his mother’s blood relatives as an means that allowed him to continue the charm she placed on him when she died. It apparently was a super powerful love charm…. Molly Weasley went to Dumbledore about him coming live with them, but he had to go there for a short time each summer to keep the charm going.
I know this, I’ve read all the books multiple times and am well versed on all HP topics
I knew he had to stay there and I know he once wore her a letter, but otherwise nothing? Then they send an owl with a letter when he comes of age and expect them to just send him?
Should’ve sent Dumbledore from the start to get him, just makes sense
Posted on 10/16/22 at 6:52 pm to ClesiandSlicedBread
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What are some other classic logical fallacies in the Harry Potter world?
The time-turner. They could’ve used that for so many things and instead it fricked off until the end of time after Azkaban.
This post was edited on 10/16/22 at 6:54 pm
Posted on 10/16/22 at 7:04 pm to 0x15E
I never really understood why Dumbledore, who knew Harry would be most likely one of the, if not THE most important wizard of the new generation why he didn’t take a more direct role in teaching him more advanced magic, and push him to not be a lazy twat.
I get the whole argument and JKR’s bullshite about how Dumbledore wanted Harry to grow up and feel as normal as possible but he was NEVER going to be normal and Dumbledore should have realized that after Harry’s first year. I mean for frick’s sake, how ironic is it that this special child that supposedly killed the most dangerous dark wizard of all time and then helps to prevent that same dark wizard from obtaining the most powerful magical object at the time. He didn’t take an active role in Harry’s life until Harry’s Sixth Year. As many mistakes as Dumbledore made, this one was probably the most egregious and it’s always bothered me
I get the whole argument and JKR’s bullshite about how Dumbledore wanted Harry to grow up and feel as normal as possible but he was NEVER going to be normal and Dumbledore should have realized that after Harry’s first year. I mean for frick’s sake, how ironic is it that this special child that supposedly killed the most dangerous dark wizard of all time and then helps to prevent that same dark wizard from obtaining the most powerful magical object at the time. He didn’t take an active role in Harry’s life until Harry’s Sixth Year. As many mistakes as Dumbledore made, this one was probably the most egregious and it’s always bothered me
Posted on 10/16/22 at 7:04 pm to emanresu
Why doesn’t the ministry trace unforgivable curses and/or key phrases used by death eaters like the death eaters do with “Voldemort” in book 7 and like the ministry does to underage wizards?
If they traced the unforgivable curses they would’ve at a minimum been able to show up at the Riddle House at the start of book 4 when Voldemort uses Avada Kedavara on Frank Bryce.
And if you say that would be an invasion of privacy, the ministry is all up in everyone’s shite in every book so I don’t see why they word draw the line at tracing illegal curses
If they traced the unforgivable curses they would’ve at a minimum been able to show up at the Riddle House at the start of book 4 when Voldemort uses Avada Kedavara on Frank Bryce.
And if you say that would be an invasion of privacy, the ministry is all up in everyone’s shite in every book so I don’t see why they word draw the line at tracing illegal curses
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