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re: Breaking Bad - Walt was right
Posted on 1/18/17 at 8:57 am to ManBearTiger
Posted on 1/18/17 at 8:57 am to ManBearTiger
Doing a rewatch now.
Jane - I "liked" her character. During 1st watch when she first threatens Walt you know something has to happen to her.
I agree for the show purposes...in real life Walt would be a POS.
Skylar - Hate her more every time I watch an episode.
This show has so many intriguing characters that could have spin offs I would be interested in.
Saul - obviously
Mike
Gus
Hector Salamanca
The Salamanca twins (granted it would have a Castaway type dialogue)
Tuco
The guy that sells Walt the 38 after Jesse kills Gayle and Gus slit the guys throat in front of Walt and Jesse (don't remember his name) I really liked this character. He was in a shady business but attempts to convince walt "to arm himself within the confines of the law".
I also thought it would be fun to have an episode that did flashbacks to Jesse's time in Walt's classroom.
Jane - I "liked" her character. During 1st watch when she first threatens Walt you know something has to happen to her.
I agree for the show purposes...in real life Walt would be a POS.
Skylar - Hate her more every time I watch an episode.
This show has so many intriguing characters that could have spin offs I would be interested in.
Saul - obviously
Mike
Gus
Hector Salamanca
The Salamanca twins (granted it would have a Castaway type dialogue)
Tuco
The guy that sells Walt the 38 after Jesse kills Gayle and Gus slit the guys throat in front of Walt and Jesse (don't remember his name) I really liked this character. He was in a shady business but attempts to convince walt "to arm himself within the confines of the law".
I also thought it would be fun to have an episode that did flashbacks to Jesse's time in Walt's classroom.
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Posted on 1/18/17 at 9:08 am to nes2010
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He left out Marie
Marie was the quintessential nosy sister-in-law. She wasn't that bad though. At least she did stand up for Walt during that deplorable "Pillow Talk" session they had in season one.
Walt was trying to show some independence by refusing chemo initially (for good reason....chemo sucks). Yet Skyler makes it about her and figures if she can't change his mind, she'll get the family together to corner and bully him into doing it.
Posted on 1/18/17 at 9:33 am to BamaChick
quote:you're missing the point. She was an overbearing nagging bitch before that, even before he was diagnosed.
Yeah, Walt tells his wife he's become a meth dealer and criminal. She throws him out and sees a lawyer to start divorce proceedings. He breaks into their home and forces her to live with him again and dares her to call the police on him and tells her if she does then she'll go down with him and she'll lose the kids.
But she's the bitch for fricking her boss after all that.
Posted on 1/18/17 at 9:34 am to BamaChick
Skylar's bitchy, but she sure seems to move the goalposts alot too. She didn't seem any less difficult when Walt still actually had some integrity, and she sure seemed OK with the money coming in as long as she thought her own arse wasn't liable. "Oh, I can get in trouble for this? Well, NOW it's a problem, then!"
That said, of course we're gonna think she's a bitch. If the story was from her POV instead, then I'm sure we'd be piling on someone else. That's just TV for you, lol...
That said, of course we're gonna think she's a bitch. If the story was from her POV instead, then I'm sure we'd be piling on someone else. That's just TV for you, lol...
Posted on 1/18/17 at 12:31 pm to Tarik One
I actually did include Marie in my all-star list of awful BB femalee - see my second post in the thread. I didn't think to include Lydia because i don't think of her the same as the others, but maybe my mind will change on rewatch. The commonality of the ones I listed is they are all basically useless slags who ride a man's coattails to their benefit and then stab them in the back once they've sapped their soul of life. I think women generally being untrustworthy succubi is a running theme of the show.
Posted on 1/18/17 at 1:02 pm to ThatMakesSense
Posted on 1/18/17 at 3:34 pm to ManBearTiger
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Skylar is the very definition of a succubus. You likely admire her and think she's a strong woman, but the fact is she's a soul-devouring shrew and would always have been regardless of Walt's actions- it's who she is as person.
Walt dodged a bullet avoiding a life sentence of her incessant hectoring. His body was literally trying to kill him in order to escape the nagging; once he retrieved his testicles from her purse and started being a badass the cancer goes right away.
Hostile toward women much? Who crushed your heart?
Posted on 1/18/17 at 4:02 pm to NOLApurpleandgold
You sound like a small minded individual. My accurate critical analysis of someone else's work has no bearing on how I view women as individuals in real life. Sorry you feel the need to white knight for fictional characters intentionally written to be interpretted as conniving. It's a common trope, as old as the story of Adam and Eve at least- sorry if your metro sjw sensibilities reject that.
This post was edited on 1/18/17 at 5:37 pm
Posted on 1/18/17 at 4:20 pm to The Dude Abides
If my wife did that Happy Birthday Mr. President bit to someone like she did for Ted.....yikes.
Posted on 1/18/17 at 7:40 pm to nes2010
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What pissed me off right away about Skyler is that Walt asks if she would turn him in if he did something illegal very early on and she said yes. Of course he isn't going to come clean after hearing that. Then she proceeds to put herself and her family on the line to protect her boy toy embezzler instead of turning him in. She's a hypocrite.
That passed me off more about her than anything else she did. It's the fact that because she wanted to frick Ted, she didn't mind his illegal activities, but went ape shite about Walts. She honestly did not give a frick what Walt was doing. She was just using him cooking meth as an excuse to justify her doing what she wanted and what she wanted was to frick that bitch boy (who wouldn't even take his arse whooping from Walt like a man) Ted. Little bitch was hiding in his office.
Posted on 1/18/17 at 7:50 pm to BamaChick
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Bamachick
Completely wrong. Skylar was a huge bitch
Posted on 1/18/17 at 7:51 pm to AshLSU
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That passed me off more about her than anything else she did. It's the fact that because she wanted to frick Ted, she didn't mind his illegal activities, but went ape shite about Walts. She honestly did not give a frick what Walt was doing. She was just using him cooking meth as an excuse to justify her doing what she wanted and what she wanted was to frick that bitch boy (who wouldn't even take his arse whooping from Walt like a man) Ted. Little bitch was hiding in his office.
She was definitely pissed off and terrified about Walt cooking meth from the minute he told her.
Posted on 1/18/17 at 8:04 pm to Wild Thang
quote:
Completely wrong. Skylar was a huge bitch
I agree she was a bitch but I don't agree with many people that she's one of the worst characters in TV history. Many people also seem to ignore that Walt was a way bigger POS than she ever could be.
Posted on 1/18/17 at 9:46 pm to 1BamaRTR
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I agree she was a bitch but I don't agree with many people that she's one of the worst characters in TV history. Many people also seem to ignore that Walt was a way bigger POS than she ever could be.
Yeah but at least Walt was cool as frick while he was being a POS.
There really wasn't an innocent (main character) in the show. The son maybe, but other than that, everyone else was pretty much a self serving POS. Some were worse than others but all of the main characters broke the law at some point and all for their own self serving reasons.
This post was edited on 1/18/17 at 9:48 pm
Posted on 1/18/17 at 9:51 pm to AshLSU
Hank and Gomez were innocents IMO- well as innocent/altruistic as an earnest footsoldier in the WoD could be. Hank bent the law here and there in his hunt for Heisenberg, but never anything overtly nefarious.
This post was edited on 1/18/17 at 9:53 pm
Posted on 1/18/17 at 10:06 pm to 1BamaRTR
She would have remained a bitch even if he didn't start dealing meth
Posted on 1/18/17 at 10:22 pm to AlonsoWDC
Yuck
Posted on 1/19/17 at 12:52 am to ManBearTiger
quote:
Hank and Gomez were innocents IMO- well as innocent/altruistic as an earnest footsoldier in the WoD could be. Hank bent the law here and there in his hunt for Heisenberg, but never anything overtly nefarious.
assault, illegal tracking, and was more than willing to let Jesse die if it meant he could catch Walt. Never mind the pulling strings to keep his wife out of jail. He wasn't the most upstanding individual.
It has been discussed that there are similarities between his storyline and Walts in that they both were willing to take pretty drastic measures to get what they wanted.
Was he ultimately as bad as Walt? No. I mean, he didn't poison any kids or anything, but he definitely walked a line of grey area.
Posted on 1/19/17 at 1:43 am to AshLSU
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assault, illegal tracking, and was more than willing to let Jesse die if it meant he could catch Walt.
Ehh.. Trying to pin him for assault is kind of weak, given the fake hospital call about Marie. He also really beats himself up about it and was even the one who called paramedics and the cops to help Jessie after he wailed on him. He also refused to lie about what he did even though his word obviously would weigh heavier than Jesse's
As for "illegal tracking," that's hardly a moral issue, just a deviation from protocol. Following someone and observing their actions is not exactly illegal. Though he did make a peeping Tom of himself when he picked the wrong RV to climb atop and peer into it. And it did turn out he was onto something all along, which justifies all that really.
When was he willing to let Jessie die to get to Walt? I'm blanking on that.
I really disliked Hank on the first watch, but now revisiting he's one of my most sympathetic characters. I also am more sympathetic to Marie this go around, couldn't stand her before, but like someone else said- she's just a busybody neurotic childless woman with a husband in a dangerous line of work.
This post was edited on 1/19/17 at 1:46 am
Posted on 1/19/17 at 10:50 am to ManBearTiger
quote:
Skylar is the very definition of a succubus. You likely admire her and think she's a strong woman, but the fact is she's a soul-devouring shrew
ManBear ManBearing on here!
Should use this quote as his signature quote.
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