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black summer S2

Posted on 6/16/21 at 6:40 pm
Posted by AMS
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Posted on 6/16/21 at 6:40 pm
out on netflix tomorrow. ironically seems to take place in the winter.

season 1 was intense zombie action at the expense of character/plot weaknesses. gunfights and zombies the opposite of walking dead - fast moving zombies with survivors that go 30+ rounds before a headshot if they even know to aim for the head.

will season 2 be more of the same or will netflix algorithms lead to some change for better or worse?
Posted by Rize
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Posted on 6/16/21 at 7:31 pm to
So was it worth a watch?
This post was edited on 6/16/21 at 7:50 pm
Posted by AMS
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Posted on 6/16/21 at 7:35 pm to
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So was it worth a watch.



S1? if you enjoy the zombie genre yea why not.

if you're a stickler from prime narrative and character development maybe not. its not on anyones top 10 series, but its better than mindlessly rewatching *insert random series for the 3rd time*
Posted by Shiftyplus1
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Posted on 6/17/21 at 12:50 am to
Black Summer was just awful. People acting dumb and irrationally is one thing, but wildly inconsistent zombie rules and behavior is another. It was a slog, and there is zero chance ill ever watch a sequel.
Posted by Displaced
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Posted on 6/17/21 at 6:32 am to
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but its better than mindlessly rewatching *insert random series for the 3rd time*


Cobra kai hits it's stride on rewatch #4
Posted by CocomoLSU
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Posted on 6/17/21 at 8:28 am to
I caught Black Summer a few months or so ago. It's not great, but I enjoyed it well enough. I'll definitely check out S2. I didn't even know it was coming out until earlier this week I saw it mentioned on NF while I was skimming through. So that was a nice surprise.

It'll be on a short leash with me though, as it got really stupid toward the end of S1.

Here were my thoughts on S1: LINK
This post was edited on 6/17/21 at 8:31 am
Posted by gizmothepug
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Posted on 6/17/21 at 9:02 pm to
The first two episodes of Season 2 are definitely better than the first season.
Posted by Cole Beer
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Posted on 6/21/21 at 11:05 am to
Season 2 is really good, but man do these people make some dumb decisions.

On a related note, I'm wondering if I should watch Z Nation since they are apparently in the same universe.
Posted by LSUZombie
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Posted on 6/21/21 at 11:23 am to
Season 2 has been so awesome and probably more realistic of what life would be like in the event of a zombie apocalypse. No Walking Dead soap opera drama. Just pure balls to the wall survival.
Posted by CocomoLSU
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Posted on 6/21/21 at 1:38 pm to
That's good to hear.

And on Z Nation: It's very meh. I never loved it, but I enjoyed it okay for the first season or so, and then it just went off the rails and wasn't for me anymore. It's just not very good IMO.
Posted by StealthCalais11
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Posted on 6/21/21 at 1:42 pm to
I didn't quite follow why there was a free-for-all war occurring. insight?
Posted by AMS
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Posted on 6/21/21 at 1:51 pm to
I got a little confused with all the jumping around and random factions but yeah some good survival action for sure

ETA I like how they converge the stories too
This post was edited on 6/21/21 at 2:01 pm
Posted by BlackAdam
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Posted on 6/21/21 at 3:43 pm to
quote:

So was it worth a watch?


It isn't very good. There is very little plot. It is basically characters running from zombies with no real plan or attempt to develop a plan.
Posted by CocomoLSU
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Posted on 6/22/21 at 10:01 pm to
I caught the first episode tonight. Man, this show isn’t very good. Just nothing at all makes any sense. Ever. I want to like it so bad but it’s tough to.

In what world is someone, let alone a zombie, holding onto the top of your car while you’re speeding around and you don’t slam on your brakes to get him off? You just drive around recklessly until you crash? Wtf?

And the zombies are different now somehow? In S1 basically as long as you were out of their sight you were good. But now they run around and look for you? I get that they’re still easily distracted but still. That’s different, and was a pretty big plot point of S1.

I love when they introduce random characters only to have them killed a minute later. Like you can’t invest in anybody because they never last.

And RIP, Lance. For someone who busted his arse to survive S1, he sure as hell didn’t last long in S2.

More scenes of people just randomly and indiscriminately shooting around. And why are these people in a war to begin with? And how in the blue hell did that one militia type group in the VERY THIN woods not see the 15 people with weapons casually walking up on them out in the open, while wearing bright neon looking colors?

I want to like this show so bad but every time I watch it I just have so many questions about shite because absolutely nothing makes sense whatsoever. Even taking it at face value of simply a “zombie survival” type show, the actions and decisions of the characters hardly ever make a lick of sense.

I guess the one thing that sort of makes some sense is that in a zombie apocalypse nobody would likely trust anybody else. So there would be a lot of senseless killing of innocent people.

I’ll watch a couple more episodes but if the stupidity keeps up I may have to bail. I did see somewhere that it picks up in quality after the first couple episodes though, so that has me hopeful.
Posted by gizmothepug
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Posted on 6/22/21 at 10:22 pm to
quote:

On a related note, I'm wondering if I should watch Z Nation since they are apparently in the same universe.


Z Nation started off great but it got just got too crazy for me especially the latter seasons. I didn’t finish it but for some reason my wife did and I saw enough to know I made the right choice. If you don’t care about any type of zombie “rules” then it might be for you.
Posted by AMS
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Posted on 6/22/21 at 11:02 pm to
I get the basic idea that this season plot was just get to waypoint B, like season 1 was get to waypoint A. Im actually ok with introducing characters to kill them off quickly, but I dont get why they do it via flash forward so you get a glimpse of their fate, then the go back to show you how they got there. seems like it would be more impactful the other way but idk


maybe spolierish if you havent seen thru ep 4








they have some good human vs human wars but cant tell why they are warring. I enjoyed the fight over the house but then they just leave?! curious as to why the head militia guy killed his own dude even though he was fine. why does that guy keep sun as a captive most of the show, but indiscriminately kills others?

Posted by Mootsman
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Posted on 6/24/21 at 9:28 pm to
Finishing up season 1. This show is ducking retarded. The Chinese black dude and the blonde chick just killed the two army dudes in the tunnel. But they didn’t turn into zombies. Literally everybody has turned into a zombie at death. But they stood around and have a convo and Chinese black dude is kn handcuffs too. This I could cite a million more examples but this is just blatant bad writing.

Cinematography is good though.

Eta just saw where it was produced by a woman named Jodi. Makes sense why there’s no logic on any of it now.
This post was edited on 6/24/21 at 9:30 pm
Posted by gizmothepug
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Posted on 6/24/21 at 9:40 pm to
Season 2 is much better.
Posted by CocomoLSU
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Posted on 6/26/21 at 8:54 pm to
I went through S2 over the last few days. I actually liked it better than S1, but it’s still not overly good. It’s well shot like someone said, but just nothing ever makes sense. Like ever.

People are warring, but we have no idea why. Sometimes the zombies are easily distracted and confused and sometimes they are smarter. Planes. Supply drops. Horses. Etc. None of it makes much sense since there is zero explanation given about anything.

I get that people would be wary of trusting others, but man the trust is so weirdly distributed. Sometimes people are willing to help or let others in. Sometimes they shoot them on sight.

Sometimes the zombies fall with a couple of shots. Sometimes they catch 20 bullets and keep going. There’s just no consistency to any of it.

The episodes were a LOT slower this time around. I did like that at first but it wore on me a bit. Like I didn’t need to see Brathwaite and Spears chit chat for almost an hour. Especially when the plot didn’t move along at all and Spears asks to be killed in the following episode. Then we see Rose and company hanging out at the lodge for an hour doing not much of anything. Okay, so Anna finds a couple of open doors. But then doesn’t tell anybody anyway. Just random and weird shite.

Rose and her daughter are badass one minute and terrified the next. And they find this badass ski resort and nobody is there? Even with it very clearly having power (lights and such)? Why the hell would you not stay there, especially with “food for a year” as the dude explained? And practically unlimited accommodations too. And all that aside, Rose is so careful with Anna but let’s her roam around a giant ski resort alone by herself, even at night?

No decisions made on the show make any sense. They never seem like the right things to do. Like everyone knows that people turn immediately upon death, yet they still mourn their loved ones face to face until they turn and eat you? Or you have the upper hand with guns on an opposing group, only to let your guard down a few minutes later and let them take control?

I don’t know if it is intentional or not for the characters, or if it’s just bad acting and nobody knows how to, but nobody on the show knows how to hold a weapon correctly. None of them. Not even the supposed “army” type dudes. Frail women holding shotguns under their armpits, grown men holding assault rifles under their arms or hanging at their waists. Etc. It really stood out to me for whatever reason.

No tactical intelligence at all. Hey, let’s stroll up on these murderers in the wide open. Hey, let’s run this way right into trouble instead of jumping on a car or the roof of a building. Let’s all shoot everything that moves no matter if our buddies are in the lines of fire or not. Let’s clear this room or house, but not check everywhere for people and just assume it’s clear. shite like that happened numerous times per episode.

And God forbid anybody tries to save a bit of ammunition.

I like how the show is broken into chapters, so to speak. But the jumping back and forth in time just feels weird as hell and rarely made any sense. I think someone said that doing it like that makes you not give a shite about any of the characters. We see some dude, then watch him die immediately. Then later in the episode we see him and how he got into his situation, but by then you don’t care because you know his fate already. Maybe it’s just me but it seems weird to do it that way.

I didn’t recall from S1, but don’t Rose and Sun know each other? Why would they not recognize each other at the airstrip?

And all of a sudden Anna gets some dialogue/lines and turns on her mother? That came out of nowhere.

I’m surprised there aren’t more rape situations on this show. I can’t imagine being a woman in a world like that. It would have to be terrible and you’d have to trust nobody and be on your guard 100% of the time.

So S2 ends and we have no explanation of the planes and who those people are or where they’re going? Or why they drop care packages? Etc. Wtf. Why have them in at all then? I guess they are just the McGuffin to give impetus to the characters to move from point A to point B.

I like the show, but the random jumping all over the place is tiresome and makes it extremely difficult to follow a lot of times, or to also remember who everyone is, with what factions they’re with, etc. I had it on a short leash this season, and it never pushed me enough to want to abandon it. So I’d be in for another season, just with hopes that the stupid shite gets corrected a little (though I wouldn’t count on it at this point). I can’t be the only one who thinks this show has some of the worst survival decisions ever, right?
Posted by AMS
Member since Apr 2016
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Posted on 6/26/21 at 9:25 pm to
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Rose and her daughter are badass one minute and terrified the next. And they find this badass ski resort and nobody is there? Even with it very clearly having power (lights and such)? Why the hell would you not stay there, especially with “food for a year” as the dude explained? And practically unlimited accommodations too. And all that aside, Rose is so careful with Anna but let’s her roam around a giant ski resort alone by herself, even at night?

I think they think someone would want to come take it over maybe. but its a mystery. probably just a nice place for them to kill off the injured old friend.

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I’m surprised there aren’t more rape situations on this show. I can’t imagine being a woman in a world like that. It would have to be terrible and you’d have to trust nobody and be on your guard 100% of the tim


I think S1 had that covered. Rose told the daughter to not get taken alive so it was a consideration. Also I think thats why sun was handcuffed and prisoner maybe I still have no idea why that happened? but then the milita guy didnt care to take other prisoners so im just lost on that.

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So S2 ends and we have no explanation of the planes and who those people are or where they’re going? Or why they drop care packages? Etc. Wtf. Why have them in at all then? I guess they are just the McGuffin to give impetus to the characters to move from point A to point B.


LOL no explanation will happen. season 1 was get to the stadium, S2 was get to the airfield, S3 will be get to SpaceX launch station. I dont know how far away they will keep rose/daughter from Sun they will probably meet up again. Militia guy will probably join their squad mostly bc they killed everyone else off lol
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