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re: Black girl getting mansplained in the first scene of Obi Wan.
Posted on 5/29/22 at 2:06 am to Scoob
Posted on 5/29/22 at 2:06 am to Scoob
I think they’re 100% having a showdown
Disney has already shown they don’t care about the canon. Luke - “There is still good in my father, I can save him”.
Fast forward “My nephew is having bad dreams so I need to kill him”
Disney has already shown they don’t care about the canon. Luke - “There is still good in my father, I can save him”.
Fast forward “My nephew is having bad dreams so I need to kill him”
This post was edited on 5/29/22 at 2:14 am
Posted on 5/29/22 at 4:43 am to Ham Solo
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I don't hold an ounce of racism in my entire soul
You keep calling her Da Brat and have completely lost your shite seemingly only b/c the character is a black woman.
This post was edited on 5/29/22 at 4:45 am
Posted on 5/29/22 at 4:45 am to lsuguy84
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Fast forward “My nephew is having bad dreams so I need to kill him”
Luke losing his faith isn't breaking canon. It's character development. It's not a development that I really cared for but that's not canon breaking.
Posted on 5/29/22 at 4:50 am to Dr RC
Him trying to kill his nephew is not character development, so agree to disagree
Posted on 5/29/22 at 5:00 am to lsuguy84
Well according to Luke it was a fleeting moment that wouldn't have gone further and according to Kylo he woke up and had to stop himself from getting chopped. I took that as a call back to when Obi Wan said "Luke, you're going to find that many of the truths we cling to depend greatly on our own point of view."
Again, I wasn't a big fan of it considering the decades of post movie media that had him still going around being the perfect hero and training new Jedi but it is character development to show that even a "chosen one" isn't perfect at all times.
Again, I wasn't a big fan of it considering the decades of post movie media that had him still going around being the perfect hero and training new Jedi but it is character development to show that even a "chosen one" isn't perfect at all times.
This post was edited on 5/29/22 at 5:02 am
Posted on 5/29/22 at 8:29 am to lsuguy84
quote:This is the most unforgivable.
Disney has already shown they don’t care about the canon. Luke - “There is still good in my father, I can save him”.
Fast forward “My nephew is having bad dreams so I need to kill him”
It isn't an arc, it isn't a "development". It is an apple turning into a spatula, inexplicably.
Aware of all his father had done, AND COULD STILL DO, Luke risked everything to bring him back to the light.
Ben Solo has a nightmare? "he could maybe do bad, gotta die"
Posted on 5/29/22 at 11:42 am to lsuguy84
quote:I get what both of you are saying.
Him trying to kill his nephew is not character development, so agree to disagree
Luke trying to kill his nephew is technically not breaking canon, because we just don't know what happens after Return of the Jedi. It's out of character, but who knows, maybe he had a brain injury and isn't quite right.
That's like James Bond becoming an assassin for hire later in life, we sure don't THINK he would ever do that.
On the other hand, putting something in the timeline BEFORE the movies we know, that can be breaking canon if you're not careful.
Third Sister cuts Owen's hand off- that's breaking canon. He had both hands later in his life, so you can't do that.
You can't bring Leia back to live with Luke, they've never met before the prison cell scene on the Death Star.
Things like that.
Tarkin assumes Kenobi is long dead, and Vader says the last time they met he was still the student and Kenobi the master.
To insert a Vader-Kenobi meeting prior to that, you would have to be very careful not to contradict both of those... first off one can't kill the other. Kenobi would have to "be winning" the duel, and still somehow appear dead at the end.
I SUPPOSE you could have a duel where Kenobi is winning, and then have the Imperial fleet do an airstrike on Kenobi's location because Vader can't beat him. Hell, it could be Tarkin in command of the ship that fires.
Vader can't sense Kenobi afterwards, Tarkin assumes he's killed Kenobi. Kenobi slips away, goes back to Tatooine incognito. We're now set up for the next meeting (which is less than a decade later, so Obi-wan doesn't age well).
Posted on 5/29/22 at 8:29 pm to SEClint
Reva will turn back to the light, save Obi-Wan and be the hero of the story in the end. Book it.
Posted on 5/29/22 at 8:34 pm to funnystuff
Watching the first episode now.
Holy christos! This. This actress is terrible. I don’t get a sense of dread when I should with her threats.
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HOWEVER, on the other hand, it is already abundantly clear that this character was horribly miscast. Not because of her race or gender, but because of her abundantly obvious lack of intimidation.
Holy christos! This. This actress is terrible. I don’t get a sense of dread when I should with her threats.
Posted on 5/30/22 at 12:37 am to Turbeauxdog
It’s not woke.
Nothing about the villain being a black female without discipline who kills her boss is woke.
The hero is a white guy.
Just admit you don’t like minorities and move on.
Nothing about the villain being a black female without discipline who kills her boss is woke.
The hero is a white guy.
Just admit you don’t like minorities and move on.
Posted on 5/30/22 at 1:59 am to SammyTiger
Star Wars fans can hate the casting of a character without it being racist.
Fans accepted Windu and he was even wearing Obi-Wans’s robe.
There are other examples as well.
Disney knew they needed a main character who was an obvious black woman and they chose to do it in the most absurd way possible rather than creating something original or something the fans are less likely to scoff at. That’s on them. And it was intentional. That’s woke and it’s not being racist to call it that. Need more evidence?
Fans accepted Windu and he was even wearing Obi-Wans’s robe.
There are other examples as well.
Disney knew they needed a main character who was an obvious black woman and they chose to do it in the most absurd way possible rather than creating something original or something the fans are less likely to scoff at. That’s on them. And it was intentional. That’s woke and it’s not being racist to call it that. Need more evidence?
Posted on 5/30/22 at 6:29 am to WestSideTiger
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Disney knew they needed a main character who was an obvious black woman and they chose to do it in the most absurd way possible rather than creating something original or something the fans are less likely to scoff at.
What’s absurd about this? They created a new character.
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Fans accepted Windu and he was even wearing Obi-Wans’s robe.
I mean… they made it the Jedi uniform
This post was edited on 5/30/22 at 6:33 am
Posted on 5/30/22 at 7:47 am to Ham Solo
A young, aggressive character being reined in by their older superior is definitely a new trope for Star Wars.
Posted on 5/30/22 at 9:35 am to Ham Solo
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Go frick yourself. Da Brat has all the answers. They'll turn her into a hero by the time this series ends. No way Obi Wan lights her up with a saber. We can predict her arch based off her skin color. She's the outlier of any story telling. She'll walk on water the whole way through.
You have issues with her character solely because she is a black woman.
Posted on 5/30/22 at 11:11 am to Ham Solo
quote:What the frick are you talking about? She literally already fricked up in a major way… did you even watch the episodes you are bitching about? Her inability to control her rage is the very thing that let Kenobi escape. How can you even pretend to argue that they will present her as having all the answers?
Da Brat has all the answers… She'll walk on water the whole way through.
Yes, her unwieldy nature has been presented as justifiable, as disobeying orders is the thing that brought kenobi into the empire’s grasp…. But that exact same nature has also been presented as a major liability, as disobeying orders is also the thing that let kenobi slip away.
She’s already been presented as flawed and a potential major liability. Nothing about her arc in the first two episodes indicates that Disney will give her all the answers. You’re just making shite up,
Posted on 5/30/22 at 11:12 am to Saint Alfonzo
I tried it. It's terribly cast and acting is atrocious. Plot is predictable and characters are boring. I may officially retire from my childhood hope that Star Wars can come back. This generation of Hollywood directors/writers may be the least talented in the entire history of entertainment. So disappointing
Posted on 5/30/22 at 11:34 am to The Ramp
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This generation of Hollywood directors/writers may be the least talented in the entire history of entertainment. So disappointing
Disney is not interested in good stories anymore. They openly admit that.
They now put politics first and story second. It is all part of their "Reimagine tomorrow" plan. Their website below tells you everything you need to know about their future plans:
ReimagineTomorrow
I realize many posters on this board want this ideology implemented and don't care about good storytelling anymore. That is their right.
But for those of us that do care, it is hard pill to swallow. Don't worry, we will eventually stop caring and abandon Disney. But it takes time to let go of the memories of childhood.
Some people like the OP need to go through the process. Accept it is over and move on.
Posted on 5/30/22 at 12:05 pm to Linoge
Only thing I found odd about the first two episodes is how tiny Leia is for a 10 year old.
And why full grown adults are having an issue chasing her down when she is as slow as a snail.
Other than that seemed okay. Not as good as Mando but I wasn’t expecting it to be.
And why full grown adults are having an issue chasing her down when she is as slow as a snail.
Other than that seemed okay. Not as good as Mando but I wasn’t expecting it to be.
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