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re: 'Birds of Prey' Tomatometer- 80% - Non spoilers / box office thread
Posted on 2/10/20 at 9:28 am to Jay Are
Posted on 2/10/20 at 9:28 am to Jay Are
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Most people are not on Twitter or stupid movie forums and would have never heard what McGregor said.
it's not just twitter. I get updates to this kind of stuff in my google news feed on my phone. It's not most people. You are right, but it's a lot of the hard core comic fans of these characters that have been turned off by this stuff over the last several years. Mix that with the fact this was an R rated movie and the trailers were underwhelming, and this is where we are. This movie was never going to be another Wonder Woman, but it should have done better.
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Posted on 2/10/20 at 9:31 am to Jay Are
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This assumes the masses are reading minor movie news in great quantity, which we know is simply not true. Most people are not on Twitter or stupid movie forums and would have never heard what McGregor said.
If I had to guess, most people wanting to see this movie are on Twitter.
I kind of want to see it, but nobody in my direct friend group has even mentioned it’s existence.
Posted on 2/10/20 at 9:36 am to JasonMason
quote:A major problem with programmatic advertising is that it reaffirms your point of view without showing you opposing points.
I get updates to this kind of stuff in my google news feed on my phone.
If you're strongly against or for woke culture, you'll see updates and news links in your social media feeds on the subject. The masses in the middle aren't getting those pushes. It's why you see people stating that "everyone is against this because of _______". They think the news is saturated with it, but it's mainly the news they've been fed by an algorithm.
Posted on 2/10/20 at 9:40 am to VoxDawg
I think it has to do with how poorly SS was received, the absolute garbage marketing, and the title of the film. Naming it Harley Quinn and the BoP might have helped because people actually know who she is
Posted on 2/10/20 at 9:46 am to Fewer Kilometers
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If you're strongly against or for woke culture, you'll see updates and news links in your social media feeds on the subject. The masses in the middle aren't getting those pushes. It's why you see people stating that "everyone is against this because of _______". They think the news is saturated with it, but it's mainly the news they've been fed by an algorithm.
You're right that the algorithms in a sense funnel you into an echo chamber, but I don't just see woke stuff with regards to comic news. I just get a lot of comic news in my news feed.
Posted on 2/10/20 at 10:18 am to dawgfan24348
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I think it has to do with how poorly SS was received
This leads me to a point I forgot to make earlier - "backlash" against BoP due to Suicide Squad's abysmal performance/failures is akin to punishing Solo at the box office because The Last Jedi practically broke the entire Star Wars franchise.
Posted on 2/10/20 at 10:31 am to VoxDawg
I really don't think it's backlash from SS. Harley Quinn was a high point from that movie.
Posted on 2/10/20 at 10:32 am to dawgfan24348
quote:The problem here is you and FK are always in these threads shilling your asses off. shite, for all we know, you're the same person.
Problem here is
Either way, the people have spoken. Girl power woke shite has become associated with poor products. It wasn't always this way, but untalented movie makers have used it as a pitch point and here we are. You can stretch for excuses, but that's the way it is.
quote:Poole went into a lot more detail. You're full of shite, as usual.
I'd like to really break it down but this is a non spoiler thread
$32 mil. Flop city.
This post was edited on 2/10/20 at 11:00 am
Posted on 2/10/20 at 10:41 am to JasonMason
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Harley Quinn was a high point from that movie.
Agreed. I'd even say that she was the best thing about the film. That's why I thought there might be a Solo/TLJ correlation.
Other than release timing, I don't understand why this didn't hit $50M this weekend.
Posted on 2/10/20 at 10:46 am to dawgfan24348
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and the title of the film
Good point. That name was stupid. I can't believe that was approved
Posted on 2/10/20 at 10:59 am to VoxDawg
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I don't understand why this didn't hit $50M this weekend.
A variety of factors:
1) The R-rating
2) The marketing
3) The lack of a big name star
4) Feminism
And before you guys come at me about the third point, Margot Robbie - while well known - has yet to prove that she can carry a movie by herself. She has only ever been part of an ensemble. This is the first time she has been called upon to carry a film almost entirely by herself.
This post was edited on 2/10/20 at 11:00 am
Posted on 2/10/20 at 12:56 pm to RollTide1987
Bad news for this film and several others. Mulan, especially.
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Gavin Feng
@gavinfeng97
Breaking: Jojo Rabbit, Little Women and all upcoming movies in the first half February have been delayed due to Wuhan coronavirus outbreak.
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Gavin Feng
@gavinfeng97
So far, all February releases in China have been cancelled. It's unclear if movies in March can hold their current dates.
Posted on 2/10/20 at 1:04 pm to blueboy
You're a sensitive one aren't you? And I'm not denying that forced diversity and woke culture is a problem. I am however saying this movie has nothing to do with woke culture. All you're doing is buying into Tim's pandering. The dude straight up lies right off the bat.
This post was edited on 2/10/20 at 1:05 pm
Posted on 2/10/20 at 1:23 pm to Jay Are
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This assumes the masses are reading minor movie news in great quantity, which we know is simply not true. Most people are not on Twitter or stupid movie forums and would have never heard what McGregor said.
I had completely forgotten McGregor was even in the movie until you guys mentioned him which I think circles right back to the marketing being abysmal.
This post was edited on 2/10/20 at 1:24 pm
Posted on 2/10/20 at 1:45 pm to dawgfan24348
quote:This is your whole act. It's gotten stale.
You're a sensitive one aren't you?
They got woke, went broke. Like I said, it's mostly to do with people like Kennedy and Elizabeth Banks and the other shitty movie makers who've used it as a ramrod for their shitty ideas. Deal with it.
Posted on 2/10/20 at 1:53 pm to blueboy
I didn't find it "woke", I just didn't like it. I thought the structure was weird, the production design was loud, disjointed, and lacking style. Harley Quinn was a much better character in Suicide Squad. Black Canary was nothing like the comic book character. Huntress was somewhat better, but the overall tone just didn't work for me. Disappointing.
Posted on 2/10/20 at 2:05 pm to BigAppleTiger
Some of you baws at each other’s neck about a Harley Quinn movie flopping is freaking sad.
Posted on 2/10/20 at 3:47 pm to RLDSC FAN
dunno, looks like it could be fun. ill give it a rental or hbo watch
Posted on 2/10/20 at 4:09 pm to caro81
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looks like it could be fun
It was a lot of fun. All I know about comic books is what I learned from all the movies, so I can't speak as an authority on the original content. Black Mask is an unknown to me, but he was the weak link of the film, IMO.
This was pretty much Deadpool w/ Harley Quinn.
Posted on 2/10/20 at 4:25 pm to McCaigBro69
I saw it. It’s literally an hour and a half of period jokes and dudes getting kicked in the nuts
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