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re: Binging The Office
Posted on 5/8/18 at 4:10 pm to GaBassFisher92
Posted on 5/8/18 at 4:10 pm to GaBassFisher92
"I wish there was a way to know you're in "the good old days", before you've actually left them."
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Posted on 5/8/18 at 4:16 pm to Breesus
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Pam is an outrageously bitchy and self-centered thundercount
I've seen this said countless times. I just finished the series the 3rd time through and specifically was on the lookout for Pam "being a bitch" and never saw it, not even once. She was upset with Jim for starting a business without telling her after the decided together not to do it. The only other time she was really even upset at all was when Jim invested their entire savings in said business without consulting her. I think anyone would be pissed in those 2 situations.
She ultimately supported Jim in everything he did.
Posted on 5/8/18 at 4:23 pm to Big Scrub TX
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That's What She Said
One of my favorites is early on when during the sexual harassment episode and Jim is egging Michael on and he is holding out saying it until Todd Packer gives him that nod. Hahaha
Also, I'm watching this episode right now. This picture always gets me.
Posted on 5/8/18 at 4:33 pm to TigerLunatik
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specifically was on the lookout for Pam "being a bitch" and never saw it, not even once.
I'm not saying she's the worst person alive. But really? You never saw it not even once?
Here's a few examples off the top of my head:
Leading a guy on while she's engaged.
Never really committing to Roy even though she was engaged to him.
Calling off a wedding after its already been planned and then not even trying to date the guy she called it off for.
Trying to come between Jim and Karen.
Bitching at Jim when the purse girl called him at work.
Refusing to entertain the idea of leaving the house by the Quarry in Scranton Pennsylvania and her job as a secretary to follow her husband to Philly to follow his dreams even though he supported and dealt with her following her art dreams in New York.
Posted on 5/8/18 at 4:53 pm to RonFNSwanson
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6 and 7 have a lot more funny moments than I remembered.
Agree here. We're finishing up the last season on a binge rewatch. Those two seasons were better than I remember.
Posted on 5/8/18 at 5:12 pm to WG_Dawg
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You have any friends or coworkers that have a kid and then become less likeable? yeah that's waht happens. They get far less funny and far less likeable.
Posted on 5/9/18 at 2:05 pm to Breesus
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Jim is a slacker who never tries at anything he does from his job to his marriage.
I'm only up to Season 4 in my re-watching, but I don't really agree with this. It's true he's not the most ambitious capitalist in the world, but he still gets his shite done. In the Office Olympics episode you are led to believe he is just a slacker when Michael is gone, then they explicitly reveal at the end that he finished his reports in 5 minutes and closed 2 sales at lunch.
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Pam is an outrageously bitchy and self-centered thundercount
This seems like a massive overstatement. I can think of plenty of examples that void these observations. A good one would be the time she grants Angela re her relationship with Dwight. Angela is clearly a thundercunt, and even when she approaches Pam in an insulting fashion, Pam still demonstrates empathy and attempts to help her.
Posted on 5/9/18 at 2:06 pm to Breesus
quote:The same Dwight that plotted to take his boss's job?
I'd have fired Jim if I was his boss. Team Dwight all day.
Posted on 5/9/18 at 2:09 pm to Big Scrub TX
Through S4 E3...the worst moment by far is when Michael drives his car into the lake following the GPS. It would be one thing had it been dark, but he literally did it with the lake in full view. Just stupid.
One real highlight was when Jim and Pam attempted to report to Toby their relationship, and he is so centered on Pam he basically said it wasn't necessary until they got farther along.
One real highlight was when Jim and Pam attempted to report to Toby their relationship, and he is so centered on Pam he basically said it wasn't necessary until they got farther along.
Posted on 5/9/18 at 2:09 pm to Big Scrub TX
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The same Dwight that plotted to take his boss's job?
Yeah definitely. He's the best salesman in the office and owns his own small business and farm and puts the company above everything else in his life.
Posted on 5/9/18 at 2:12 pm to Breesus
quote:Come on, man. The whole point is that love is hard - particularly for a sheltered girl from Scranton who essentially had her small-town life planned out for her, trapping her in this engagement. None of that was "bitchy" - it was more just clueless blundering.
Leading a guy on while she's engaged.
Never really committing to Roy even though she was engaged to him.
Calling off a wedding after its already been planned and then not even trying to date the guy she called it off for.
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Trying to come between Jim and Karen.
Is this even a thing? I just finished the Karen arc and I don't remember that.
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Refusing to entertain the idea of leaving the house by the Quarry in Scranton Pennsylvania and her job as a secretary to follow her husband to Philly to follow his dreams even though he supported and dealt with her following her art dreams in New York.
This is the only good example - and it falls in line with the weak writing of the latter years of the show.
Posted on 5/9/18 at 2:14 pm to Big Scrub TX
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This seems like a massive overstatement
Look at both Roy and Jim with and without Pam.
Roy with Pam - dead-end job warehouse worker with no ambition.
Roy without Pam - happily married man who can play the piano and is successful in business.
Jim with Pam - slacking paper salesman at a dead end job who routinely turns down promotions and
Jim without Pam - offered the role of manager and Jan's job and then started a successful company in Philly.
Pam makes eveyone else's lives worse. I bet she's alot of fun in bed though. The kind of dangerous fun where you forget about the rest of the important shite in life and you're content being a slacking mediocre waste as long as you get to spray those guts.
This post was edited on 5/9/18 at 2:17 pm
Posted on 5/9/18 at 2:14 pm to Big Scrub TX
She was a bitch to Michael when he was dating her mom.
It was almost like she didn't want him to be happy.
It was almost like she didn't want him to be happy.
Posted on 5/9/18 at 2:16 pm to Big Scrub TX
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Come on, man. The whole point is that love is hard - particularly for a sheltered girl from Scranton who essentially had her small-town life planned out for her, trapping her in this engagement. None of that was "bitchy" - it was more just clueless blundering.
Would you agree if you were Roy?
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Is this even a thing?
Do you not remember the beach episode?
Posted on 5/9/18 at 2:22 pm to Breesus
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I bet she's alot of fun in bed though. T
That seems like a stretch, I get the impression pam would just lie there and wait for it to be over.
Posted on 5/9/18 at 2:24 pm to Breesus
quote:It's weird that you would hire a subordinate who you know would scheme to get your job.
Yeah definitely. He's the best salesman in the office and owns his own small business and farm and puts the company above everything else in his life.
Posted on 5/9/18 at 2:25 pm to Breesus
quote:It's weird that you would hire a subordinate who you know would scheme to get your job.
Yeah definitely. He's the best salesman in the office and owns his own small business and farm and puts the company above everything else in his life.
Posted on 5/9/18 at 2:27 pm to Big Scrub TX
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It's weird that you would hire a subordinate who you know would scheme to get your job
Why wouldn't I hire the best salesman in the region who never takes sick days, is never late, and will do pretty much anything I ask of him? He schemed to get Michael's job because Michael wasnt doing it correctly. I didn't have a problem with that move.
Posted on 5/9/18 at 2:27 pm to Breesus
quote:This seems absurd. He was trapped in the same small-town mentality as Pam. Just because he was able to discover himself doesn't mean anything was "Pam's fault".
Roy with Pam - dead-end job warehouse worker with no ambition.
Roy without Pam - happily married man who can play the piano and is successful in business.
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Jim with Pam - slacking paper salesman at a dead end job who routinely turns down promotions and
Routinely turns down promotions? He almost immediately accepted the #2 position in Scranton when the Stamford guy bolted for Staples. Less than a year later, he interviewed for Jan's job. All of that was "without Pam". It just seems like you don't have the basic facts of the plot down.
Posted on 5/9/18 at 2:30 pm to Breesus
quote:I think Roy was cluelessly blundering also. I don't find much "blame" in their relationship. I'm glad they both got out.
Would you agree if you were Roy?
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Do you not remember the beach episode?
I remember her being very nice to Karen for many months leading up to that. And all she said was she wanted them to still be friends. It wasn't nefarious. And it was done in a fit of self-discovery after she walked on the coals.
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