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re: Big Brother Season 23 Thread - LIVE Premiere July 7th 8pm ET - CBS

Posted on 9/1/21 at 10:20 pm to
Posted by Tiger Voodoo
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Posted on 9/1/21 at 10:20 pm to
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Who do I want to see win? I think it would be hilarious to see Big D win. But I don't see anyway that happens. He'd have to be sitting next to Azah to even have a chance, but that would mean that both would have to win a comp at some point, and I'd be shocked if that ever happens.

I think it's X's game to lose at this point. It would serve Tiff, Hannah, and Ky right to let X make it to final 6, and then see him comp out the rest of the way. Plus X would be the most deserving winner this season imo.




Look at that, I completely agree with all of this Tab


DF would be an awesome conclusion in a funny way, but yeah I think X deserves it. He’s really been the force holding CO together over the last month, so he deserves it imo.

Tiff I would be happy for just because she has a son and I always root for a parent toward the end.

Ky I guess is somewhat deserving because he’s won comps and his hold over SB was important on a couple of weeks. I’m not a fan of his personally, but I don’t think I’d say he was undeserving if he pulled it off.

I just want to see two of those three face the jury and would find it interesting hearing their pitches. I think it would make for a fun finale.

Hannah DF and Azah really haven’t done shite and are basically floaters the big 3 used as numbers, and if one of them is sitting there at the end the finale will suck imo.
This post was edited on 9/1/21 at 10:37 pm
Posted by DoUrden
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Posted on 9/1/21 at 10:54 pm to
LOL, you are WAY to vested in a show that fixes the outcome!
Posted by Tiger Voodoo
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Posted on 9/1/21 at 11:02 pm to
As opposed to the people that have been bleeding over this for months
Posted by HHS7
Member since Jul 2017
371 posts
Posted on 9/2/21 at 12:41 pm to
We all had the heads up that they would be intentionally casting a more diverse cast. I’m going to chalk this up to being a “got that first one out the way” season. POC alliance being successful and POC wins. I personally don’t care what color wins…just want a not so obvious season of course.

I’ve been watching BB since season 1 and have never purchased the live feeds since they started. I’ve only watched the show, watch this thread, and read Jokers. I’ve done nothing this season other than watch the show. This is first I’ve read this thread in weeks. In years past, I’d feel like I was missing something major behind the scenes knowing CBS doesn’t show the whole true picture on TV. But I’ve only watched the show this year with confidence there is nothing happening in the feeds that will remotely change anything due to the cause. That’s fine and all for this season so we can get over that hump. Next season will at least be interesting to see how they navigate it strategically in the beginning knowing what they know now from this season. Again, it doesn’t matter to me who wins…it’s just the predictability that kills it.

With that said, the only interesting final 2 for me would be X and Tiffany. They’d both plead strong cases…would depend on if you want to vote for the solid game player from beginning holding the CO together versus a strong player with added sympathy of being a parent.
Posted by JJ27
Member since Sep 2004
62262 posts
Posted on 9/2/21 at 12:52 pm to
Tiffany for the Cause

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Tiffany- SB just talked to me for a whole hour. That girl is...God damn, you better be glad you in the six cause I would be keeping her. I'm not even lying. Kyland- I believe you. Tiffany- Damn! #BB23
Posted by JDPndahizzy
JDP
Member since Nov 2013
6966 posts
Posted on 9/2/21 at 2:30 pm to
Can't believe I'm saying this but I can't wait til all the white people are gone.. I wish it was double night and Alyssa and SB would both go.
Things should get CUT-THROAT once its only the BBQ crew.. Wouldn't at all be surprised if someone gets called the N-word..
Posted by MONROE
In the belly of the beast
Member since Sep 2015
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Posted on 9/2/21 at 3:08 pm to
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and they especially haven’t played any “race card”


There’s no need to play that card when you have the numbers
Posted by Bamatab
Member since Jan 2013
16257 posts
Posted on 9/2/21 at 3:09 pm to
Unfortunately I think there will be a triple eviction as soon as it down to all of the CO, and it will kill any hope of drama just like what happened last season. There's supposedly a 2 hour episode that is already scheduled, which indicates a probable triple.
Posted by MONROE
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Member since Sep 2015
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Posted on 9/2/21 at 3:15 pm to
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in most seasons they would be a large majority of the house grouping up to take out 2 or 3 people based strictly on their race.


This is absolutely fiction and you ought to be ashamed for inventing such bullshite
Posted by MONROE
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Member since Sep 2015
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Posted on 9/2/21 at 3:20 pm to
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I'm not going to keep posting about this because I don't want to drag this thread down anymore than it already is


Please just leave the thread altogether. People are getting tired of downvoting you
Posted by Tiger Voodoo
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Posted on 9/2/21 at 3:54 pm to
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in most seasons they would be a large majority of the house grouping up to take out 2 or 3 people based strictly on their race.


This is absolutely fiction and you ought to be ashamed for inventing such bullshite




Hey congratulations on being the third confirmed poster with the reading comprehension of a toddler to melt over that sentence, which is clearly above your grade level
This post was edited on 9/2/21 at 3:56 pm
Posted by Brettesaurus Rex
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2009
38261 posts
Posted on 9/2/21 at 7:39 pm to
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There’s absolutely no evidence this happened. You’ve made it up in your head to avoid giving the CO alliance any credit.

It’s pretty obvious it’s this.

I give them full credit and frankly don’t take offense to anything they’re doing. Why do you care that they grouped up because they’re black? Similarly socially sectored people ban together on this show all the time.

To me the big difference is they aligned on their similarities. They didn’t align just “to get out all the white people.”

Quit being a butthurt dumb dick and just accept that they’re outplaying everyone. The fact that JUST NOW anyone is even thinking of them as something is amazing.
Posted by Brettesaurus Rex
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Member since Dec 2009
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Posted on 9/2/21 at 7:51 pm to
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Tiger Voodoo

That was a hell of a response. I know most of the idiots in here won’t appreciate it but damn man you nailed that.

I think if you’re so offended by what’s going on you need to take a look in the mirror and ask yourself why.
Posted by Eighteen
Member since Dec 2006
37406 posts
Posted on 9/2/21 at 8:26 pm to
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think if you’re so offended by what’s going on you need to take a look in the mirror and ask yourself why.


it’s not being offended, it’s eyerolling at the double standard and understanding that is ruins the entire premise of the game of big brother

it’s playing out exactly as if they had a pregame alliance, because it’s fundamentally the same thing. it’s awful for viewers, it’s awful for future of the game, it’s awful for future black people…the show was already on a really bad decline, but now the game is dead
This post was edited on 9/2/21 at 8:27 pm
Posted by Brettesaurus Rex
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2009
38261 posts
Posted on 9/2/21 at 9:52 pm to
The entire premise of big brother is forming strategic alliances to help get yourself further along. They did that, and very well. The side buddy was the difference maker. They couldn’t figure it out because they all assumed they had this really close relationship that wasn’t there at all.

I don’t see why it’s such a problem that they found a common thread and used it to their advantage. It wasn’t like they had the numbers advantage the whole game anyway. AND they’ve done all this without really even taking up that many HOH spots themselves.

I disagree completely but hey. They played this really well. Some of the best performances can be pretty boring. Why is it held against them that they’ve done so well?
Posted by Eighteen
Member since Dec 2006
37406 posts
Posted on 9/2/21 at 10:04 pm to
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I disagree completely but hey. They played this really well. Some of the best performances can be pretty boring. Why is it held against them that they’ve done so well?



Because the “cause” negated any and all nuances and interpersonal connections of the alliance. Hence why it essentially acts like a pregame alliance, it had nothing to do with game or relationships.

also, they were a locked group of votes all season and are a locked group of jury votes for the winner with no risk or gameplay needed from other members of the alliance for that not to be the case. that’s why it breaks the game and takes away the nuances and fun

really it’s just a big LOL at the white people for being so oblivious and colorblind in the end, gotta assume the “cause” people are a voting block at all times no matter what they say or what their actions are

when the cookout described and laughed at the fact that they wouldn’t be outed because the other houseguests would be too scared to talk about it is when it just transcends the game and proved how broken it was on both ends.

“cause” players can blatantly brute force their way through the game without criticism or risk of their lives getting ruined/canceled (and even get defended from posters like you), while white players have to tip toe/delicately dance around nominating “cause” players and balance doing so to advance in the game and not have their lives ruined outside of it. it’s not fun for players or viewers, and I don’t see how it gets fixed
This post was edited on 9/2/21 at 10:18 pm
Posted by Lickitty Split
Inside
Member since Apr 2017
4161 posts
Posted on 9/2/21 at 10:45 pm to
This is the worst season. Not only is there zero drama, there’s zero point to watching. None of the twists did anything to change the game. The only twist that did was setup to make sure the people with darker skinned had an advantage. The only way to hide a darker skinned person alliance is to synthetically create four forced alliances all having darker colored skinned people on each one.

The only drama is reading what full blown racists people are saying to defend the racist moves by the producers and participants. I find it humorous that some people in this thread are completely making stuff up to justify a strictly racial alliance as being other anything other than racist.

This all reminds me of Democrats in real life though. Democrats were for slavery, Democrats were for Jim Crow, and Democrats are for abortion. These are all things abhorrent but perfectly acceptable for Democrats. Your status will always be low life and justice may not come in this lifetime but it will surely be administered in the afterlife.

I’m sure the racists will try to attack me or say I’m a fool. Just know I’ll be laughing at your responses and insecurities.
Posted by DaleGribble
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Member since Sep 2014
6821 posts
Posted on 9/3/21 at 12:10 am to
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This is the worst season. Not only is there zero drama, there’s zero point to watching.


I've been watching since BB1. Really started getting annoyed with production interference when Grodner took over for BB8. BB9 was a total shitfest, but production kept James around as long as they could, and then they went all out to get Dan the win in BB10 and break out a twist to screw Jesse over again for BB11.

By BB16, I was done. Watching BB20 recently pulled me back in. But I can't see wasting a single second watching BB23. It sounds like everything that I hate about Grodner running the show.
Posted by The Spleen
Member since Dec 2010
38865 posts
Posted on 9/3/21 at 9:00 am to
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The only twist that did was setup to make sure the people with darker skinned had an advantage.



I mean, we just had a week where a twist saw a white girl overtake a black girl's HOH, and the CO had that white girl so misted she kept the target(another white girl) the same and saw her leave the house. How did that twist give the CO an advantage?

I think there are legitimate criticisms of this season and the CO alliance. BamaTab nailed a bunch of them several posts back. But some of these posts clearly show some are either not even watching the season, or are so blinded by their own prejudices, they have no idea what has transpired this season.
Posted by Lickitty Split
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Member since Apr 2017
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Posted on 9/3/21 at 9:29 am to
I’ll try not to be trite. If you specifically create four manufactured alliances to hide a darker skinned alliance then you can control the outcome. While it’s true a white girl won the comp, did the twist change the outcome? Was that white girl in the same alliance with the black HOH?

I don’t have any prejudices. I’ve watched the season. I know what’s happened and I know what’s been edited. Like I said, it’s the worst season and the only thing that has come of this is seeing straight racists make excuses for racist behavior and championing it.

CBS upped the prize to make itself feel better for awarding it to a minority. The pandering is ridiculous. I also wonder why there isn’t more Hispanic representation on Big Brother. I know Ky is part Mexican but Hispanics are nearly 20% of the US population but they only get one player on BB.

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