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Posted on 8/30/22 at 10:47 pm to Smoke7024
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So unfounded that the strategy he mentioned wasn’t used just last season.
I am not sure exactly what the poster meant, he needed to proof his post as he was likely missing a couple of words which I do often.
It was indeed unfounded because even with feeds there is zero evidence there was a Cookout 2.0. It was however reasonable for Kyle or anyone else to consider that it might happen or was happening. The voting over the course of the season however did not support this.
The bottom line is Kyle either made a bad read or was trying to convince B&M to accept a fake read as the catalyst to coalesce a different set of game alignments to further his game. I have zero issues with someone going home for either of the above, I do however have an issue with people twisting and weaponizing a game play in a way that has significant negative ramifications outside the game. Michael went full Machiavelli by painting Kyle as a racist when it is likely not the truth. I do not think Kyle is a racist but I also don't know for sure he could be a daily poster on Storm Front but there is no more evidence of that than Kyle had that there was a Cookout 2.0. I do think Kyle would have been voted out very soon if the house had a transcript of what he said even if no racist intent was considered. I do however think that Turner would not have felt obligated to change his expected renom against his own interests.
Posted on 8/30/22 at 11:04 pm to Obtuse1
Feeds go to HOH room and Kyle was there. He said he was curious about the conversation Michael and Brittany had with (I think he was talking to Turner but I did not/ could not see who he was talking to) and asked how close his comments were to the cookout and the feeds swap to other room with Michael and Taylor to align all four cameras then to Monte walking around the kitchen by himself.
CBS is trying their hardest to keep this narrative spun one way. Kyle is finally starting to ask questions.
CBS is trying their hardest to keep this narrative spun one way. Kyle is finally starting to ask questions.
This post was edited on 8/30/22 at 11:07 pm
Posted on 8/30/22 at 11:23 pm to ugastreaker
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Kyle is finally starting to ask questions.
Hopefully he can use Wednesday to really figure it out and get Terrance Monte and Alyssa to keep him as a weapon Vs Michael. Just needs to wake up
This post was edited on 8/30/22 at 11:24 pm
Posted on 8/30/22 at 11:41 pm to ugastreaker
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CBS is trying their hardest to keep this narrative spun one way. Kyle is finally starting to ask questions.
Which boggles my mind…..How can CBS think that they can spin a narrative when they know people are watching other platforms on the internet, spoilers, live feeds, etc. I know they cater to the CBS TV audience, but there are just as many or more on the internet, like ourselves, that will expose them. Maybe I’m missing something. Although I must remember this show has been on for 22 years and has somehow gotten through other shite in the past.
This post was edited on 8/30/22 at 11:42 pm
Posted on 8/31/22 at 12:19 am to HHS7
Monte talked to Turner earlier and both questioned the timing of Michael and Brittney disclosing this info. Turner said he really was bothered by them both stressing this was not a game move when it clearly was. Monte said he's thought about the same thing and Terrence has talked to him previously about that. Monte says Taylor refuses to listen or see that...that she is "blind" to it and refuses to question Michael or Brittney and he doesn't know how to really talk to her about it because she wants Kyle gone. Both agree they don't understand the SJW using the veto to save Brittney and not Taylor given they had such a revelation about all of this.
Kyle and Monte are in the backyard now playing pool. Fully open conversation about everything. Kyle says the conversation was had over a month ago regarding the cookout to Michael and Brittney. Apparently feeds cut every time "the cookout" is mentioned or referenced. But Kyle said at the time he expressed his concerns, it was over 3-4 days until Terrence (and I think he said Taylor) were nominated before realizing that a cookout issue wasn't an issue. Apparently during the ousting of the information against Kyle, Michael and Brittney told the house they have been fact checking for the last week or two and decided it HAD to be brought up...but it had nothing to do with game...even though Brittney was going on the block.
On another note...CBS isn't catering to reasonable common sense folks. They want to appeal to the woke culture...the ones who threaten to burn houseguests stores and homes down.
Kyle and Monte are in the backyard now playing pool. Fully open conversation about everything. Kyle says the conversation was had over a month ago regarding the cookout to Michael and Brittney. Apparently feeds cut every time "the cookout" is mentioned or referenced. But Kyle said at the time he expressed his concerns, it was over 3-4 days until Terrence (and I think he said Taylor) were nominated before realizing that a cookout issue wasn't an issue. Apparently during the ousting of the information against Kyle, Michael and Brittney told the house they have been fact checking for the last week or two and decided it HAD to be brought up...but it had nothing to do with game...even though Brittney was going on the block.
On another note...CBS isn't catering to reasonable common sense folks. They want to appeal to the woke culture...the ones who threaten to burn houseguests stores and homes down.
This post was edited on 8/31/22 at 12:21 am
Posted on 8/31/22 at 6:49 am to Miganey
Kyle and Alyssa had sex again, I think he said he lasted 20 seconds this time. 
Posted on 8/31/22 at 6:49 am to Miganey
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Hopefully he can use Wednesday to really figure it out and get Terrance Monte and Alyssa to keep him as a weapon Vs Michael. Just needs to wake up
There is a somewhere less than 1% chance Kyle survives this week.
Way less.
Posted on 8/31/22 at 6:54 am to TigerFanatic99
Yeah Kyle was already saying things like "I'm jury now" to other houseguests
Posted on 8/31/22 at 7:34 am to tzimme4
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This post was edited on 4/7/23 at 3:59 pm
Posted on 8/31/22 at 7:46 am to tzimme4
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Kyle and Alyssa had sex again, I think he said he lasted 20 seconds this time.
Apparently she had broken up with him that morning, so she lasted all of maybe 12 hours at the most before jumping in bed with him.
Posted on 8/31/22 at 7:46 am to tzimme4
As much as I don’t want Kyle to go, I’m bout ready for Thursday to be over with. The conversation around it is just exhausting at this point and a losing battle. Not that we won’t have to hear about it in jury again 
Posted on 8/31/22 at 7:48 am to HHS7
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As much as I don’t want Kyle to go, I’m bout ready for Thursday to be over with.
Yeah, I ain't watching any of the crap they put on the episodes this week.
Posted on 8/31/22 at 8:21 am to Bamatab
Well Bamatab I took a few days off from commenting…
You’ll have to tune in next Sunday when they show Kyle entering the jury house, asking for everyone to come to the living room, confessing his deep seeded hatred of black people and admitting he’s a racist. But he’ll promise that he’s seen the err of his ways and is getting professional help.
I joke of course but I can actually see that happening. I’ve tried to put myself in monte and Terrance’s shoes and if someone like Michael told me that either of them hated whitey and was out to get me after all the personal and trusting moments we shared in the house, I would give them the benefit of the doubt at a minimum.
I would also realize that taking Kyle to the end would mean that I had at least 3 black votes on jury, 2 SJW votes, and 1 Joseph vote… but that would be actually playing the game and strategizing to win $750k… can’t have that once racism rears it’s ugly head.
I didn’t watch Sunday and it’s gonna be hard to watch tonight and Thursday. I probably won’t.
ETA- but I did and still do appreciate your and everyone else’s posts while I was on timeout!!! Lol
You’ll have to tune in next Sunday when they show Kyle entering the jury house, asking for everyone to come to the living room, confessing his deep seeded hatred of black people and admitting he’s a racist. But he’ll promise that he’s seen the err of his ways and is getting professional help.
I joke of course but I can actually see that happening. I’ve tried to put myself in monte and Terrance’s shoes and if someone like Michael told me that either of them hated whitey and was out to get me after all the personal and trusting moments we shared in the house, I would give them the benefit of the doubt at a minimum.
I would also realize that taking Kyle to the end would mean that I had at least 3 black votes on jury, 2 SJW votes, and 1 Joseph vote… but that would be actually playing the game and strategizing to win $750k… can’t have that once racism rears it’s ugly head.
I didn’t watch Sunday and it’s gonna be hard to watch tonight and Thursday. I probably won’t.
ETA- but I did and still do appreciate your and everyone else’s posts while I was on timeout!!! Lol
This post was edited on 8/31/22 at 8:24 am
Posted on 8/31/22 at 8:45 am to JDPndahizzy
Monte would lose Taylor's jury vote if he kept Kyle over her on Thursday
This post was edited on 8/31/22 at 8:47 am
Posted on 8/31/22 at 8:46 am to Obtuse1
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I am not sure exactly what the poster meant, he needed to proof his post as he was likely missing a couple of words which I do often.
It was indeed unfounded because even with feeds there is zero evidence there was a Cookout 2.0. It was however reasonable for Kyle or anyone else to consider that it might happen or was happening. The voting over the course of the season however did not support this.
The above is exactly what I meant. Totally reasonable to at least consider that their might be a Cookout 2.0, given what happened last season. But what Kyle didn't do is consider that Taylor would have went first if they just voted someone out, that Ameerah went third, Nicole went fourth, etc.
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The bottom line is Kyle either made a bad read or was trying to convince B&M to accept a fake read as the catalyst to coalesce a different set of game alignments to further his game. I have zero issues with someone going home for either of the above, I do however have an issue with people twisting and weaponizing a game play in a way that has significant negative ramifications outside the game. Michael went full Machiavelli by painting Kyle as a racist when it is likely not the truth. I do not think Kyle is a racist but I also don't know for sure he could be a daily poster on Storm Front but there is no more evidence of that than Kyle had that there was a Cookout 2.0. I do think Kyle would have been voted out very soon if the house had a transcript of what he said even if no racist intent was considered. I do however think that Turner would not have felt obligated to change his expected renom against his own interests.
I agree with the above too. I think this is a fair, nuanced take! Kyle went too far in his speculation, but as Tiffany and Kyland talked about on the Winner's Circle, Michael and Brittany weaponizing race for their benefit is wrong.
This post was edited on 8/31/22 at 11:40 am
Posted on 8/31/22 at 8:46 am to tzimme4
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Monte would lose Taylor's jury vote if he kept Kyle over
You sure? Maybe so.
Posted on 8/31/22 at 8:54 am to JDPndahizzy
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I would also realize that taking Kyle to the end would mean that I had at least 3 black votes on jury, 2 SJW votes, and 1 Joseph vote… but that would be actually playing the game and strategizing to win $750k
Cancellation kills strategy.
Posted on 8/31/22 at 9:10 am to pelicansfan123
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ut what Kyle didn't do is consider that Taylor would have went first if they just voted someone out, that Ameerah went third, Nicole went fourth, etc.
Yeah that is what is going to ultimately work against him the most was being so wrong about it. I think everyone in this thread was talking about how bad of a read it was at the time. Throwing Indy and Joseph into it was a bad look as well, and played into the Michael spin that he wanted only white people.
I don't think Kyle is racist, I think he just tried to make a big game move and did it terribly with very flawed reasoning=, which he should have known was flawed.
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