Batman v Superman

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She was an okay Louise Lang.

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For what it's worth I actually loved Ben Affleck is Bruce and Batman in this. He pulled it off way better than I had anticipated.

I actually kind of like the idea of a Batman who doesn't mind killing people/being brutal with criminals. After years of being beaten down and being heartbroken I think that would be a cool side to explore on film.

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BvS has a lot of really cool individual scenes. The movie, as a whole, is just a mess.

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This is actually my take on both MoS and BvS. There are individual things from both that I REALLY like. But taken altogether, they are a jumbled up mess which shows a complete lack of understanding of who either Superman or Batman are and because of it the entire DCEU never had a chance of getting off the ground in the same way Marvel's did, despite having the most recognizable heroes.

Just to show that I'm not all about shitting on Snyder's movies, one of my favorite over all scenes in any of the superhero movies which came out in the past 15 years was the flashback scene of Bruce driving into Metropolis while Superman and Zod are fighting. Yes...him staring up at Superman as if he's the problem is where the plot for this movie begins to go off the rails...but the very nature of Bruce Wayne driving INTO danger instead of running away from it is one of the most Batman things we've ever seen on film. Him literally running into the billowing smoke from the collapse of his building is incredibly heroic, and he's not even in his costume.

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There was SO much potential... Cavill and Affleck were perfect as Supes and Batman, physically.
And Gadot as Wonder Woman/Diana was also done well. I like her accent in this, before they shoved it into everyone on Paradise Island in the next movie. I mean, get her a voice coach, start WW with subtitles and morph over to the accents after Steve arrives...

But it had a couple fatal flaws. Worst Lex ever, worse than I could have imagined. Mark Strong would have been ideal, maybe. And they apparently had some cool scenes and a decent idea, but they couldn't fill it in to make it work smoothly.

I think maybe if Lois had gotten there at the end of the fight, and laid into Batman being less human than Clark, and maybe Clark just said a feeble "it's ok, I'm not meant for this world anyway" to her, that might have done better. Triggered something in Batman looking at the relationship, at what he's become, at how he'd been played by Lex... and then Lex does the Doomsday play as Batman WAVERED. And have Doomsday smack Batman but good once, only for Supes to save him.

I think if they'd taken it that way, Batman participates in the fight and it goes the way it does, and he looks at Superman's sacrifice and realizes he was wrong.

That way, you have 90% of the same movie, you just adjust the final fight scenes a hair (you'd have to erase the "save mom" bit, but you could put a similar thing in just before he goes after Superman, to show off his skill). And maybe it's Martha he saves just by acting like Batman, since Lex had brought her to Metropolis to snuff her.
A little timeline tweaking, most of the same scenes, most of the same action.

The premise of the movie had potential. Would the world really accept a Superman. Half the world
Would treat him as a messiah. The other half would treat him like an invader.

It would’ve been great if they sort of dwelled on that theme instead of getting crazy with the whole Martha & Lex/Zuckerberg stuff. Superman has been strip mined as a property. The world not fully accepting Superman is a new take that should’ve been given a proper treatment.

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There was SO much potential

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No there wasn’t. It was fricked from the start. Zack Snyder decides to start of his cinematic universe by taking inspiration from “The Dark Knight Returns”. Anyone who is familiar with that material would think to themselves “Shouldn’t you wait another 5 to 7 years to adapt that material? Marvel didn’t start Civil War as their second film for a good fricking reason.” I’m sorry, but from the start of it was fricked. You got to build up the universe before you go there.

This film can not be salvaged with some editing. It is an absolute dumpster fire and has to be started from scratch. The only good things I can say about it is Ben Affleck wasn’t as bad of a Batman as I was expecting and the warehouse scene was pretty good. Everything else about the movie sucked (Galdot didn’t show her real chops until Wonder Woman and was shoved in there for no reason).

Scene of superman and zod as gods fighting was great

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No there wasn’t. It was fricked from the start. Zack Snyder decides to start of his cinematic universe by taking inspiration from “The Dark Knight Returns”. Anyone who is familiar with that material would think to themselves “Shouldn’t you wait another 5 to 7 years to adapt that material? Marvel didn’t start Civil War as their second film for a good fricking reason.” I’m sorry, but from the start of it was fricked. You got to build up the universe before you go there.

This film can not be salvaged with some editing. It is an absolute dumpster fire and has to be started from scratch. The only good things I can say about it is Ben Affleck wasn’t as bad of a Batman as I was expecting and the warehouse scene was pretty good. Everything else about the movie sucked (Galdot didn’t show her real chops until Wonder Woman and was shoved in there for no reason).

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I swear Snyder googled "best selling Batman and Superman comics" then tried to shoehorn as many elements from those in to BvS as he could. Story be damned.

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I think the Martha thing was stupid and Jesse Eisenberg as Lex Luthor was bad casting.

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I thought Eisenberg captured exactly what I think Lex Luthor is, but I realize I'm in a distinct minority there.