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Band of Brothers vs The Pacific
Posted on 5/16/19 at 11:33 am
Posted on 5/16/19 at 11:33 am
This is not a debate of which series was better. And I may be posting in the wrong page. I recently rewatched both and I’m trying to decide who had a harder war front.
Easy company jumped in to Normandy and was surrounded from the beginning. They also faced freezing temperatures in Bastogne. Germans at times had better equipment.
The Marines in the Pacific face hot temps and no water at times. They fought in unforgiving terrain. They also faced an enemy that was not willing to surrender. Had it not been for the A-bomb the nips may not have surrendered and many more lives would have been lost.
So who had it worse?
Easy company jumped in to Normandy and was surrounded from the beginning. They also faced freezing temperatures in Bastogne. Germans at times had better equipment.
The Marines in the Pacific face hot temps and no water at times. They fought in unforgiving terrain. They also faced an enemy that was not willing to surrender. Had it not been for the A-bomb the nips may not have surrendered and many more lives would have been lost.
So who had it worse?
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Posted on 5/16/19 at 11:52 am to JOJO Hammer
quote:
The Marines in the Pacific face hot temps and no water at times. They fought in unforgiving terrain. They also faced an enemy that was not willing to surrender. Had it not been for the A-bomb the nips may not have surrendered and many more lives would have been lost.
I will say the Marines on the Pacific front had it worse.
Disease
Brutal enemy
jungle and guerilla style battles
tactics from both sides that got medieval at times
Posted on 5/16/19 at 11:55 am to Tigeralum2008
I suspect the fear of fighting an enemy that was totally foreign to you (non-western) created a completely different level of anxiety as well.
Certainly more inclined to dehumanization I assume.
Certainly more inclined to dehumanization I assume.
Posted on 5/16/19 at 12:15 pm to JOJO Hammer
The Pacific was worse. The Japanese were savages and wouldn't surrender and were dug in really deep. Not to mention the heat and humidity of the jungle.
Posted on 5/16/19 at 12:17 pm to JOJO Hammer
If I had a choice, I would have chosen to fight in Europe.
Jungles, oppressive heat, uncertain supply lines, and a fanatical enemy that will sneak into your foxhole and cut your throat while you sleep doesn’t suit me very well.
Those Japs were scary as frick.
Jungles, oppressive heat, uncertain supply lines, and a fanatical enemy that will sneak into your foxhole and cut your throat while you sleep doesn’t suit me very well.
Those Japs were scary as frick.
This post was edited on 5/16/19 at 12:18 pm
Posted on 5/16/19 at 12:17 pm to JOJO Hammer
I’m pretty sure the large estimates of total Japanese prisoners taken is less than 50k.
The Pacific was rough.
The Pacific was rough.
Posted on 5/16/19 at 12:24 pm to JOJO Hammer
quote:
the nips
Posted on 5/16/19 at 12:30 pm to TheFonz
quote:
If I had a choice, I would have chosen to fight in Europe.
agree
Posted on 5/16/19 at 12:30 pm to JOJO Hammer
Marines and Army caught hell in the Pacific.
Neither front was nice but I would have to say the Pacific based on.
* the mentality of the enemy
* the terrain -- mountains, jungle, rivers
* the weather -- hot, humid, rainy
* the diseases
Neither front was nice but I would have to say the Pacific based on.
* the mentality of the enemy
* the terrain -- mountains, jungle, rivers
* the weather -- hot, humid, rainy
* the diseases
Posted on 5/16/19 at 12:41 pm to CaptainsWafer
Nipponese
Don't try to humanize them nips. They were animals and we're given the best option out.
Don't try to humanize them nips. They were animals and we're given the best option out.
Posted on 5/16/19 at 1:11 pm to ZappBrannigan
Better questions: Why'd you start two threads?
Posted on 5/16/19 at 2:19 pm to JOJO Hammer
I've always believed the Pacific was worse. Brutal unforgiving landscape and conditions and disease. On top of that Japanese soldiers seemed to have a messianic love for the emperor. They were also trained from a young age to be merciless and sacrifice themselves in battle. You just didn't see that with German soldiers.
Posted on 5/16/19 at 2:22 pm to JOJO Hammer
Many German soldiers didn’t want to fight for the nazis. Wasn’t so much the case for the Japs
Posted on 5/16/19 at 2:27 pm to JOJO Hammer
quote:well no shite. One was one of the best things on TV.... ever..... and one was a forgettable series outside of a few story lines.
Band of Brothers vs The Pacific
This is not a debate of which series was better.
quote:thats a very very very tough question.
I recently rewatched both and I’m trying to decide who had a harder war front. Easy company jumped in to Normandy and was surrounded from the beginning. They also faced freezing temperatures in Bastogne. Germans at times had better equipment. The Marines in the Pacific face hot temps and no water at times. They fought in unforgiving terrain. They also faced an enemy that was not willing to surrender. Had it not been for the A-bomb the nips may not have surrendered and many more lives would have been lost. So who had it worse?
This post was edited on 5/16/19 at 2:28 pm
Posted on 5/16/19 at 2:31 pm to Fatboy22
quote:seemed? that it literal. He is a living god to them. I read on here recently someone referenced a documentary saying that it as pure genius that Truman Eisenhower and the top leaders in the US allowed the Emperor to remain because it we would have kill him we would still be in a "war" with Japan like we are with China and Russia.
seemed to have a messianic love for the emperor
Posted on 5/16/19 at 2:42 pm to JOJO Hammer
Definitely the marines (and soldiers) in the Pacific after the Japs stopped doing their silly banzai charges and would hole up in caves and use civilians as shields. The typical German soldier wasn't any different from us.
Roughly 1% of Allied prisoners died in German POW camps. It was 30% for Japanese camps...
Roughly 1% of Allied prisoners died in German POW camps. It was 30% for Japanese camps...
This post was edited on 5/16/19 at 2:46 pm
Posted on 5/16/19 at 2:44 pm to CarRamrod
quote:
well no shite. One was one of the best things on TV.... ever..... and one was a forgettable series outside of a few story lines.
Yeah, the only part of the Pacific I enjoyed was Leckie's.
Posted on 5/16/19 at 3:52 pm to JOJO Hammer
What just happened to the other thread with the same title?
Posted on 5/16/19 at 4:52 pm to JOJO Hammer
Marines of course. They were fighting the Japanese, all code of bushido, never give up, coming out of tunnels like Viet Cong.
The Nazis couldn't compare.
The Nazis couldn't compare.
Posted on 5/16/19 at 5:28 pm to stateofplay
Band of Brothers was a far better show
But honestly the two shows highlighted the differences in the two theaters
BOB showed the side of war between two somewhat civil forces. It showed the courage of young men and the bonds formed between those willing to die for each other, and the memories and stories between them that will last a lifetime
The pacific showed the ultimate hell war could be. Dirty, sick, marines fighting an enemy almost not human. It showed how there is no fond memory or lesson to take from hell like that. One could only hope to forget it
No question the pacific was the worse side of the war. BOB even highlighted how Easy company wanted no part of going to Japan
But honestly the two shows highlighted the differences in the two theaters
BOB showed the side of war between two somewhat civil forces. It showed the courage of young men and the bonds formed between those willing to die for each other, and the memories and stories between them that will last a lifetime
The pacific showed the ultimate hell war could be. Dirty, sick, marines fighting an enemy almost not human. It showed how there is no fond memory or lesson to take from hell like that. One could only hope to forget it
No question the pacific was the worse side of the war. BOB even highlighted how Easy company wanted no part of going to Japan
This post was edited on 5/16/19 at 5:31 pm
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