re: Avenger: AoU Reviews (**MAJOR SPOILERS**)

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Since apparently Thanos is pulling Loki's strings why isn't the order to Loki to just bring back the scepter? Or bring me both when Loki steals the Tesseract in the first two seconds of the Avengers?

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He also wanted all humans dead. As Thor said, messing with Tesseract showed that humans were ready for a higher form of warfare.

Also, the scepter was controlling Loki. Not Loki controlling the scepter. Loki just never realized it because of the way the scepter does its thing. The scepter was doing Thanos' will.

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Maybe Thanos thought the task was beneath him and so simple his puppets could accomplish it.

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Ding Ding Ding

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If I'm trying to secure items that will allow me to be the most powerful being ever, well I'm probably not going to deem any task below me and leave things to chance

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I don't understand this thinking. He's a gigantic purple guy who sits on a floating throne in the middle of space. If you can get past that, surely you can get past the fact that he waited around for others to get the stones because it is a comic book story and that's just how it goes. There would be no build up or epic final battle if he just annihilated Earth the minute he wanted the stones.

I'm with you and not trying to nitpick, but ultimately isn't that what's wrong with Ultron? We go in knowing he's not a real threat because the big bad they've been gearing up for is still lurking in the shadows.

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My only complaint is actually the trailer. If you've watched the trailers enough, you see Wanda falling down to her knees in despair. The second I believe Captain America said, "Some of us aren't coming back." I immediately concluded Quicksilver was fricked.

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Once I read that Olsen was signed on for Cap 3, with no mention of Taylor-Johnson, combined with the trailer I came to the same conclusion

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I thought it was great.

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I thought it was just ok. Fun at times, but there's just way too much going on. I'm just not a big fan of these "ensemble" films, I much prefer the solo films where they can focus a lot more on the main characters. This was just scene after scene of mindless action, I honestly felt like I was watching a Michael Bay film.

I wasn't big on them making Wanda a much bigger threat to the Avengers than Ultron. At times it felt like he was irrelevant and an easy victory without her. I was hoping for a significant period of time where Ultron was flat out dominating. The closest he got was wanda mind-fricking half the avengers during the hunt for the rare earth elements.

I'll respectfully disagree on "too much going on". Like previously stated, I feel like that's expected when you're making a movie like the Avengers. You're talking about 8 main chracters from multiple different movies coming together in one. it'd have to be like a 5 hour movie for elaborate character development...plus we know their development from their individual movies.


I would probably go back and say it was "good", not "great".

Now that I really think back on it, an immensely disappointing scene was when Ultron realized Wanda and Quicksilver switched over to the Avengers.

The Ultron I was hoping for probably would have said "frick it. I don't need you two anyways.", but he even was visibly distraught the second he realized they were against him on the train. It screamed "I am so fricked without you two. Pleaassseee don't go!"

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which is what probably sucks for whedon, "yeah we want you to set up all of these characters and future storylines....and oh yeah keep it under 3 hours."

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That's the feeling that I got. It was like he had a shotlist from Marvel/Disney that he had to work into the film. It made for a choppy experience that seemed more like a set of scenes strung together than a complete film.

You're not arrogant enough to perceive yourself as God either.

Not "a" god...God.

I had an indepth conversation about this last night, and I think the ultimate problem was trying to give each character a big enough role.

In the first avengers, hawkeye and banner had very small roles. In this movie, they both had big roles. They expanded Black widow's role, plus introducing new characters that had (relatively) large roles. It sucked the plot straight out of the movie.

What they should have done is nix the BW/banner storyline, reduce hawkeye's role a bit and then let the plot develop a bit more.