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re: Avenger: AoU Reviews (**MAJOR SPOILERS**)

Posted on 5/5/15 at 11:44 pm to
Posted by LittleJerrySeinfield
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Posted on 5/5/15 at 11:44 pm to
I'm just judging it by what was on screen, not what may or may not have been cut out, and that scene was not fleshed out at all. Then Thor comes flying into Avengers Tower and hits the casket with his hammer and voila, Vision is fully cooked. It looked to me like Quicksilver had , unplugged several important cords/tubes, not just the AC/DC adaptor cord.

Posted by VaBamaMan
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Posted on 5/5/15 at 11:49 pm to
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I'm just judging it by what was on screen, not what may or may not have been cut out, and that scene was not fleshed out at all. Then Thor comes flying into Avengers Tower and hits the casket with his hammer and voila, Vision is fully cooked. It looked to me like Quicksilver had , unplugged several important cords/tubes, not just the AC/DC adaptor cord.



I understand that. I am just saying the pools were basically explained. Thor said one exists in every realm and He used the only person he knows outside of the avengers to help him find it.

As far as vision. You are right. Only thing I can think of is that he used all of the electricity to help Jarvis continuing the download. He did use it longer than normal.
Posted by saintsfan22
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Posted on 5/5/15 at 11:59 pm to
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Thor said one exists in every realm and He used the only person he knows outside of the avengers to help him find it.

And it took them no effort to find it apparently.
Posted by VaBamaMan
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Posted on 5/6/15 at 12:05 am to
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And it took them no effort to find it apparently.


Again, we didnt see that part.

Blame Marvel and the studio, not Joss.
Posted by abellsujr
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Posted on 5/6/15 at 10:12 am to
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You didn't read that massive post of mine you quoted, did you? Or at least, not fully. I made almost this exact statement at the end.
Well, it was a long post. I more or less knew the answers to the questions I was asking, except for the one about why the Avengers let her in the group so quickly. One could argue that everything was directly her fault.
This post was edited on 5/6/15 at 10:13 am
Posted by STEVED00
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Posted on 5/6/15 at 10:34 am to
I know this is off topic but what is the correlation between Howard Stark's assistant/Butler Jarvis and Tony's Stark's J.A.R.V.I.S. operating system. Was that discussed in the comics?
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Posted on 5/6/15 at 10:42 am to
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except for the one about why the Avengers let her in the group so quickly. One could argue that everything was directly her fault.


I was under the impression that she wasn't an official avenger but that the new guys were going to be trained.

It still seems like "Hey, she did this. But but but she SAVED people, and that is the biggest thing of all!"

Or

"Well, we let Tony stay on the team after creating Ultron behind our backs, and after doing it again with Vision. She can join no problem."

I dont think they know what we know, at least, not yet. Not the total scope of her actions. I would keep it that way if I were her.
This post was edited on 5/6/15 at 10:59 am
Posted by VaBamaMan
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Posted on 5/6/15 at 10:43 am to
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I know this is off topic but what is the correlation between Howard Stark's assistant/Butler Jarvis and Tony's Stark's J.A.R.V.I.S. operating system. Was that discussed in the comics?


If I am not mistaken Jarvis was more of a father figure to Tony than Howard was. It goes deeper than that though.
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Posted on 5/6/15 at 10:53 am to
Maybe Thor was trying to destroy it...
Posted by Methuselah
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Posted on 5/6/15 at 11:16 am to
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except for the one about why the Avengers let her in the group so quickly. One could argue that everything was directly her fault.


I was under the impression that she wasn't an official avenger but that the new guys were going to be trained.

It still seems like "Hey, she did this. But but but she SAVED people, and that is the biggest thing of all!"

Or

"Well, we let Tony stay on the team after creating Ultron behind our backs, and after doing it again with Vision. She can join no problem."

I dont think they know what we know, at least, not yet. Not the total scope of her actions. I would keep it that way if I were her.

Hmm. What if the government gets tired of the Avengers just adding any super powered beings they want to add even if they've done bad stuff. Next thing you know they'll want to register them and keep them under control. Heck, that could lead to a Civil War.
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Posted on 5/6/15 at 11:26 am to
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Next thing you know they'll want to register them and keep them under control. Heck, that could lead to a Civil War.
Also every X-Men movie ever made.
Posted by VaBamaMan
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Posted on 5/6/15 at 11:50 am to
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Hmm. What if the government gets tired of the Avengers just adding any super powered beings they want to add even if they've done bad stuff. Next thing you know they'll want to register them and keep them under control. Heck, that could lead to a Civil War.


It makes complete sense that the most public Avenger. Who by the way, the public has no clue what he has actually done. Would be the one wanting to register powered people, so they can be accountable for what they have done.

I am telling you, whatever SW let that scepter do to Stark is going to come back up.


With the way they tie the universe into AoS. Especially with the inhuman story line currently going on. It should be interesting to see how they write it, and where Colson and the rest fall within the show. Would be interesting to have major protagonists you like, but are rooting against, for almost an entire season. If they made them be on IM's side.
This post was edited on 5/6/15 at 11:52 am
Posted by hg
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Posted on 5/6/15 at 9:00 pm to
Watching Godzilla and I knew that I recognized Quicksilver

Didn't realize him and scarlet witch were both in this.
Posted by Napoleon
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Posted on 5/6/15 at 9:08 pm to
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Watching Godzilla and I knew that I recognized Quicksilver


He was also KickAss



Also didn't know that Elizabeth Olsen is the power twins younger sister.

This post was edited on 5/6/15 at 9:12 pm
Posted by VaBamaMan
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Posted on 5/6/15 at 9:19 pm to
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Didn't realize him and scarlet witch were both in this.


They are both on the cusp of becoming A-listers. AoU might have put them over the top. They have been 2 of those "hot young talents" for a few years now. Both have been in a LOT of movies lately. Seems like every movie I see them is another step up the ladder.
Posted by saintsfan22
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Posted on 5/6/15 at 9:28 pm to
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They are both on the cusp of becoming A-listers. AoU might have put them over the top. They have been 2 of those "hot young talents" for a few years now. Both have been in a LOT of movies lately. Seems like every movie I see them is another step up the ladder.


Don't know about that. They were arguably the least liked part of Godzilla. She hasn't been in anything big besides those two movies. And those two movies being big weren't really about them.

Also after Googling, why is he married to an old lady?
This post was edited on 5/6/15 at 9:28 pm
Posted by VaBamaMan
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Posted on 5/6/15 at 9:41 pm to
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And those two movies being big weren't really about them.


Being in huge movies makes them recognizable. A-List is generally defined by fame, and how that fame pulls people to the theater. While he was terrible in Godzilla, and she had a small role. AoU is enough to put them in the consciousness of a lot of people.

She will also continue to be in Marvel movies for a fairly long time. She is a much better actor than Taylor-Johnson as well.

Just looked at her IMDB, I thought I had seen her in more than what is listed. I guess I only noticed her in Oldboy. However, her ascension is remarkable, from starting in 2011 to being on the cusp of A-list status.

Edit: I'll give Aaron Taylor-Johnson this. His voice acting has been very good in everything he has done. Had no idea he was British.

Edit 2: Geez he has been in a lot of bigger movies the past few years. Kick-arse 1&2, Savages, Godzilla, AoU, Albert Knobbs, Anna Karenina. That is a decent list, and a wide range of genres.
This post was edited on 5/6/15 at 9:48 pm
Posted by VaBamaMan
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Posted on 5/6/15 at 10:23 pm to
I am watching the first Avengers on FX right now. Caught something at the beginning that reinforces my thought that the scepter is controlling everything.

When the leader of the Chitauri is talking to Thanos at the beginning, regarding the tesseract, he says "Our ally knows its workings as they never will, he is ready to lead". The scene they show in that exact moment is the scepter being handed to someone, but the shot concentrates on the scepter.

"Our ally knows its workings as they never will." Loki hasn't been shown to much more about the tesseract than the humans. He uses Dr Selvig so he can open the portal with tesseract. His plan would have taken much longer without Selvig. He needed the Dr to help figure out how to use the tesseract to do what he wanted.

Then there is the word "ally". Loki isnt an ally, if anything he is a slave. Thanos saved his life and ordered him to go to earth. When Loki arrives he says "I am burdened with glorious purpose." Notice the word "burdened". Throughout the movie he is portrayed as nervous and shaken, especially when he arrives. He acts blustery but is in fact pale and sweating. Yes, he kills the chitauri leader, but he in no way ever threatens Thanos. He isnt an ally. He is a trained attack dog.

I am positive the chitauri leader is referencing the consciousness in the scepter as being their ally. What else would know the inner workings of a infinite stone like a being constantly controlling one.

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Posted on 5/6/15 at 10:38 pm to
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He was also KickAss


Does this blow your mind



Posted by Napoleon
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Posted on 5/6/15 at 11:44 pm to
yes, yes it does.
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