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re: Andor Season 2 Discussion (All Episodes Available)
Posted on 4/25/25 at 10:10 am to HeyCap
Posted on 4/25/25 at 10:10 am to HeyCap
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Not to interrupt the rape food fight, but can someone tell me who the younger guy was that was talking to Luthen at the party whose parents were mixed race and exiled (I believe)? As they were talking drunk Tay almost bowls him over as he walks past him and I was wondering if it were on purpose or just to show how sloppy Tay had gotten.
I confess I was struggling to stay awake after a long day and have not had a chance to rewatch.
I took it as Luthen using his persona to get information about high ups in the empire. Then, the guy bumping into him was just an example of how this guy is messing things up for he rebellion and needs to be dealt with.
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Posted on 4/25/25 at 10:45 am to DestrehanTiger
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I took it as Luthen using his persona to get information about high ups in the empire. Then, the guy bumping into him was just an example of how this guy is messing things up for he rebellion and needs to be dealt with
This. Also he mentioned his mother was Ghorman so they may be setting him up to inform Mothma and Luthen about the upcoming events on Ghorman.
Posted on 4/25/25 at 11:45 am to Esquire
Posted on 4/25/25 at 12:30 pm to DestrehanTiger
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Not to interrupt the rape food fight, but can someone tell me who the younger guy was that was talking to Luthen at the party whose parents were mixed race and exiled (I believe)? As they were talking drunk Tay almost bowls him over as he walks past him and I was wondering if it were on purpose or just to show how sloppy Tay had gotten.
I confess I was struggling to stay awake after a long day and have not had a chance to rewatch.
I took it as Luthen using his persona to get information about high ups in the empire. Then, the guy bumping into him was just an example of how this guy is messing things up for he rebellion and needs to be dealt with.
Good catch. Given how much thought seems to have gone into this show, I suspect what that guy was saying will become relevant later on. They rarely miss a chance to add to the story, and it was a perfect spot to do so. I need to go rewatch that, and see exactly what they were saying.
And yeah, I think the main point is that ol' boy is wasted again. We're told by hubby that he got too drunk and needed a ride day one, now he's staggering around again day 2. And this time in front of Luthen, who knows exactly how dangerous that could be.
It sounded like the Ghormans were a bit "racist", as he wasn't pure blood and thus out of the circle over there. Maybe a hint on how Dedra Meero will work her staged "rebellion", in order to facilitate the societal collapse and allow for the mining. Stage some riots, and the Empire will need to step in and assume control "for safety and security"...
Posted on 4/25/25 at 12:45 pm to Mickey Goldmill
quote:See, this has opened a lot of things for the show here.
I'm actually liking Dedra for dropping the law on Mama.
As much as we love to hate Syril, I think the audience 100% has sympathy for him, when it comes to what his mother does to him and how it has fricked him up. He's an uptight little dickhead, but she made him that way.
And Dedra sees that, and despite how cold and ruthless she herself is, Dedra sees that she can attempt to "fix" that.
BTW, did anyone else think "hey, she's actually pretty" when they show Dedra picking out clothes for the dinner, and she smiles in the mirror? She flashed that smile and looked attractive. It's a testament to how well the actress is using Resting Bitch Face most of the time.
I'm kinda wondering if Syril will end up flipping by the end of the series. He doesn't seem evil or even particularly callous, just super OCD and trying hard to 'do the right thing' and to be something other than a failure. He wanted justice for the death of the cop, didn't want Andor to get away with murder. Just didn't see the bigger picture, and how by pushing the issue he made things a lot worse.
Now that he's with Dedra, I could see him stumble onto what she's doing with the Ghormans, and again try to do the right thing, this time fricking Dedra over. And that wouldn't work out well for him; but maybe he's gonna figure that nothing ever works out well anyway, might as well do something good for once.
Posted on 4/25/25 at 1:13 pm to Scoob
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I'm kinda wondering if Syril will end up flipping by the end of the series. He doesn't seem evil or even particularly callous, just super OCD and trying hard to 'do the right thing' and to be something other than a failure. He wanted justice for the death of the cop, didn't want Andor to get away with murder. Just didn't see the bigger picture, and how by pushing the issue he made things a lot worse.
Now that he's with Dedra, I could see him stumble onto what she's doing with the Ghormans, and again try to do the right thing, this time fricking Dedra over. And that wouldn't work out well for him; but maybe he's gonna figure that nothing ever works out well anyway, might as well do something good for once.
That never crossed my mind, but I guess I could see that. I think the more probable outcome for him is sacrificing himself to save her.
Posted on 4/25/25 at 1:46 pm to Mickey Goldmill
quote:Not sure I see him making the noble sacrifice for anyone.
That never crossed my mind, but I guess I could see that. I think the more probable outcome for him is sacrificing himself to save her.
He just can't help himself. Season 1, he starts in a decent spot, and his boss tells him in no uncertain terms to leave the cop-killing alone. That guy had a record of abusing his power, so it wasn't too shocking to the boss, and the priority at that moment was to NOT attract the Empire's attention. Let it go, and by this point in the show he's probably in the boss's spot.
Even after the initial fallout, him losing his career and the Empire assuming more direct control of the system, he still can't drop it. He fricking pesters the Imperial Gestapo agent (Dedra), who is a bit amazed that someone would lack the common sense to do so.
The only reason they hooked up instead of her having him disappear, is because he saved her life in the riot.
You'd think he'd have learned his lesson now that he's back in a decent spot (due to her), but... he's still Syril. The fondue fork, he stares, and has to fix it. Mother drips the fondue, Syril bitches about her dripping, Dedra tells him to don't worry about it so she can address Mother.
He's around Dedra now, and sooner or later he will get a sniff of something she's doing. And he will see something, and have to pick at it again. The Ghorman rebellion isn't quite right, or something like that. And that will be his arse, but it will be hers too.
Posted on 4/25/25 at 5:11 pm to Scoob
Too much to quote so here is a link to a nice interview with Gilroy about Andor and Star Wars.
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Posted on 4/25/25 at 6:47 pm to Scoob
Had Syril dropped the case, the rebels wouldn't haven't gotten the Death Star plans. A butterfly's flap, if you will. Fun to think about.
Posted on 4/25/25 at 7:32 pm to Esquire
This series is 9.9/10 on the untouchable scale.
The writers keep creating alien worlds and behaviors and ships and all the things but still completely humanize it all for us to connect to.
We are all in.
The writers keep creating alien worlds and behaviors and ships and all the things but still completely humanize it all for us to connect to.
We are all in.
Posted on 4/26/25 at 7:15 am to One72
Sorry guys don’t hate too bad but been busy with kids stuff. Can someone explain the conversion between Mon and Luther at the end? Why did she decide to get drunk?
This post was edited on 4/26/25 at 7:32 am
Posted on 4/26/25 at 7:35 am to dallastiger55
He let her know he was gonna have her childhood friend tay kolma/the banker killed.
Posted on 4/26/25 at 7:36 am to One72
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This series is 9.9/10 on the untouchable scale.
The writers keep creating alien worlds and behaviors and ships and all the things but still completely humanize it all for us to connect to.
We are all
Its bittersweet knowing this is the last season but 9 more episodes i think will be incredible.
Posted on 4/26/25 at 8:24 am to Corinthians420
I read this season took 280m to make. How? It looks amazing but that’s a ton of money
Posted on 4/26/25 at 8:56 am to dallastiger55
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I read this season took 280m to make. How? It looks amazing but that’s a ton of money
Each episode is at least 50 minutes long.
150 minutes = 2.5 hours.
They made 3 feature length movies for $280 million ($93 million per movie).
Posted on 4/26/25 at 9:55 am to Corinthians420
Yeah, but why did they want him dead?
Posted on 4/26/25 at 10:03 am to dallastiger55
Loose lips. Was getting drunk and sloppy. Worried he was going to talk
Posted on 4/26/25 at 10:08 am to dallastiger55
He is one of the few people that know and can prove Mothma is financing the Rebellion. His life is falling apart (divorced/broke) and he is casually blackmailing her into paying him off to keep quiet. Luthen knew after observing him all weekend he was too much of a risk to them to keep alive.
Posted on 4/26/25 at 10:14 am to Esquire
Thanks. Will watch E3 again
Posted on 4/26/25 at 10:24 am to dallastiger55
Did they mention why the empire can’t track the missing TIE Fighter.
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