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re: Andor (Disney+) Season Thread
Posted on 11/23/22 at 9:45 pm to BottomlandBrew
Posted on 11/23/22 at 9:45 pm to BottomlandBrew
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The whole point was that the ISB driver would hear it. It gives her an alibi for tge missing money.
I agree. That was intentional. It may not account for all the missing money or more specifically the suspicious transactions, but the mobster will make those disappear.
Posted on 11/23/22 at 9:48 pm to TideWarrior
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I believe she set up her husband and now the ISB thinks the money he is taking money
If so, she can give Luthen a run for his money in using cynical tactics to aid the rebellion.
Posted on 11/23/22 at 10:14 pm to goinallout
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Why would Mon Motha talk about those things in the car when she said her driver was an ISB plant? Poor writing in a great show.
That was 100% intentional. She was feeding the ISB a plausible explanation about the funds missing from her accounts.
Posted on 11/23/22 at 10:25 pm to Methuselah
quote:That's exactly what she did.quote:
I believe she set up her husband and now the ISB thinks the money he is taking money
If so, she can give Luthen a run for his money in using cynical tactics to aid the rebellion.
Did you notice, she tells her husband to lower his voice, and he says the driver can't hear anything?
And that is presented from the driver's side of the window?
She absolutely used her husband to cover for her finances.
And what's likely going to happen is, the Empire will lean on him some, try to flip him. And because he's actually innocent, it will open his eyes (maybe just a bit, but it will), and he will be more opposed to the Empire.
So she actually flipped him, because he was just living the good life as a senator's spouse.
This child marriage custom, it was clear there was no real love between them. Just convenience and custom.
And the planning of the show overall... most people felt the first two episodes were too slow, not enough actual story. But the funeral scene wouldn't have worked without those two episodes. We saw how Maarva was important to Cassian, and that community, and that she had a practical 'frick the Republic/Empire' outlook in her life.
Curious, was the black dude really selling Cassian out, or was he playing a part to empty the garrison? I think the latter.
Gotta wonder about Luthen's thoughts as it all went down. He went to clean up a loose end, and ended up at Ground Zero for the actual Rebellion. That wasn't a terrorist cell, it was a populist uprising.
Posted on 11/23/22 at 10:27 pm to goinallout
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Poor writing in a great show.
Great writing for a great show, it didn’t catch the attention of everyone when it premiered, including me, but I’m glad I stuck with it. That droid had me fired up.
Posted on 11/23/22 at 11:39 pm to goinallout
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Why would Mon Motha talk about those things in the car when she said her driver was an ISB plant? Poor writing in a great show.
You just don’t understand what you are watching.
Posted on 11/24/22 at 12:02 am to hth52
Fantastic finale, the raw scene of the riot was fantastic. You could see where it was heading, but nothing could stop it.
Just hate waiting for the second season now. Gilroy should be greenlit for anything moving forward
Just hate waiting for the second season now. Gilroy should be greenlit for anything moving forward
Posted on 11/24/22 at 12:03 am to goinallout
quote:How was this not obvious? She knew the empire was on to her for moving money around. She knew her driver was ISB and listening. So she concocted the gambling story as a cover for money moving around.
Why would Mon Motha talk about those things in the car when she said her driver was an ISB plant? Poor writing in a great show.
Posted on 11/24/22 at 12:16 am to buckeye_vol
quote:Question now, is she doubling down on cover, setting up her hubby AND selling her kid? Or is she setting up an alternative?
How was this not obvious? She knew the empire was on to her for moving money around. She knew her driver was ISB and listening. So she concocted the gambling story as a cover for money moving around.
Personally, realistically, she's now locked into the gangster deal, simply by the fact he has some knowledge of her problem. If she doesn't sell her daughter's rights to him, he's still going to know she has some shady financial deals that she is DESPARATE to cover, and I think he could extort even more out of her down the road. He's got to have some idea of the amount of money, or it wouldn't be a given he could do it. And he'd have time to speculate on WHY she'd be so nervous about it, do some digging etc. If he's a gangster worth his title, he should be able to uncover some stuff, maybe even tie it to Luthen.
Posted on 11/24/22 at 12:26 am to Scoob
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Question now, is she doubling down on cover, setting up her hubby AND selling her kid? Or is she setting up an alternative?
My opinion based purely on speculation:
I think the gambling story is her cover for the money she’s already moved, while the marriage arrangement is setting up her cover for future withdrawals.
In other words she’s doubling down on the rebellion. Perrin’s alleged gambling might give the ISB a reason for the issues with her accounts so far, but at some point she’ll have to come up with something better if she wants to keep financing the good fight.
Posted on 11/24/22 at 12:29 am to Scoob
quote:I honestly don’t know where they’re going to go with her family, and in fact, they’ve done a really good job keeping their views and motivations mysterious. I can’t tell if he’s just a playboy, who doesn’t care anything about politics, or if he’s a true believer who will turn on her immediately if he knew what she was up to.
setting up her hubby AND selling her kid? Or is she setting up an alternative?
Posted on 11/24/22 at 6:00 am to buckeye_vol
Something else this episode that was such great payoff. Syril and his former sergeant descending on the planet in silence and mutual respect, as opposed to last time when Syril gave an embarrassing speech, while the troops clearly did not respect the young officer as they suppressed laughter.
Posted on 11/24/22 at 6:44 am to lostinbr
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think the gambling story is her cover for the money she’s already moved, while the marriage arrangement is setting up her cover for future withdrawals.
I think she is that ruthless. Not only has she now set her husband up for the money already missing but using the daughter connection to the gangster to connect future missing money with her husband. Think about it the ISB believes her husband is a gambler and large amounts of money are missing because of his gambling. Now their daughter is being matched with a gangster with a well respected family. Almost as if they owe him something. Because of the gambling story the daughter being matched with a gangster's son is another red flag connection but now for the husband because of his perceived gambling debts.
She may have created one of the greatest cover stories in a show while throwing her husband to the wolves.
This post was edited on 11/24/22 at 6:50 am
Posted on 11/24/22 at 6:45 am to Scoob
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And what's likely going to happen is, the Empire will lean on him some, try to flip him
I think the ISB will ignore that money thing if they think it's a gambling issue as opposed to aiding a rebellion.
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Curious, was the black dude really selling Cassian out, or was he playing a part to empty the garrison? I think the latter.
I think he was a turncoat, him and Cassian obviously had a bristly working relationship. Maarva's speech at the end caused him to reflect on what he was doing and probably have second thoughts, but he got caught in that blast and it was too late.
This post was edited on 11/24/22 at 6:51 am
Posted on 11/24/22 at 6:47 am to Scoob
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Personally, realistically, she's now locked into the gangster deal, simply by the fact he has some knowledge of her problem
Yes but realistically the deal with the gangster if ever connected will fall back on her husband with his gambling(supposed) that just set up.
Posted on 11/24/22 at 6:48 am to Scoob
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Curious, was the black dude really selling Cassian out, or was he playing a part to empty the garrison? I think the latter.
I agree with Sicboy because he was doing everything he could to get info at the bar from the one guy.
This post was edited on 11/24/22 at 6:49 am
Posted on 11/24/22 at 7:01 am to TideWarrior
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Almost as if they owe him something. Because of the gambling story the daughter being matched with a gangster's son is another red flag connection but now for the husband because of his perceived gambling debts. She may have created one of the greatest cover stories in a show while throwing her husband to the wolves
She seems pleasant but she is as ruthless and committed as Luthen. I agree she sold both her husband and daughter in this episode for the rebellion. He has no idea who he is married to.
Posted on 11/24/22 at 7:53 am to MRF
I started watching Rogue One again. I had forgotten how different Andor was in that one.
In the beginning, he is faced with a situation similar to the one at the beginning of Andor - confronted by two troopers in an alley. But in Rogue One, he does not hesitate to quickly kill them both. Then he coldly kills the informant when there is danger of capture, something he stopped in Andor season finale. He truly does become Luthen’s weapon. Looking forward to seeing ruthless Andor in season 2.
In the beginning, he is faced with a situation similar to the one at the beginning of Andor - confronted by two troopers in an alley. But in Rogue One, he does not hesitate to quickly kill them both. Then he coldly kills the informant when there is danger of capture, something he stopped in Andor season finale. He truly does become Luthen’s weapon. Looking forward to seeing ruthless Andor in season 2.
Posted on 11/24/22 at 7:58 am to MRF
A few nuggets
The Watch podcast from the Ringer dropped yesterday with a finale recap and 30 minute interview with Tony Gilroy(the creator)
The procession with the band was fantastic. So much build up
Sue me but I’ve got a thing for Dedra. I can tell she’s crazy in the sack and just needs a good lay.
The Watch podcast from the Ringer dropped yesterday with a finale recap and 30 minute interview with Tony Gilroy(the creator)
The procession with the band was fantastic. So much build up
Sue me but I’ve got a thing for Dedra. I can tell she’s crazy in the sack and just needs a good lay.
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