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re: American Society of Cinematographers 10 Best Shot Films

Posted on 1/20/19 at 7:43 pm to
Posted by biglego
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Posted on 1/20/19 at 7:43 pm to
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Posted by SPEEDY
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Posted on 1/20/19 at 8:11 pm to
A River Runs Through It
Posted by Jack Ruby
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Posted on 1/20/19 at 9:04 pm to
River runs through it is a beautifully filmed movie, and did win an Oscar for photography, but I don't think it's near top 10 worthy of all time.
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Posted on 1/20/19 at 9:33 pm to
This might be common now...

But nobody was doing this back then and it's been copied non-stop since... YouTube

This long-take, look at the shadows, the precision, in brilliant black and white it was brilliant. There's not a single wrong note in lighting and close-ups in this difficult shot.

And it starts with basically a new invention and then ends with basically a new invention that was just rediscovered recently with the hand-held that Goddard used.
This post was edited on 1/20/19 at 9:35 pm
Posted by 632627
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Posted on 1/20/19 at 10:54 pm to
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The Assassination of Jesse James by the Coward Robert Ford. Deakins deserves a spot on that list.


First movie that popped into my mind
Posted by Baloo
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Posted on 1/21/19 at 10:02 am to
French Connection is the gold standard on how to shoot an action sequence. It is one of the single most ripped off movies in history. It's not pretty, but it is a worthy entrant on the list.

This is a good list, if a bit stodgy. I mean, movies have happened in the last 30 years, and I'm always wary of lists that suffer either from recency bias or the opposite. Look, the fact Children of Men isn't on the list is an outrage. Same with anything by Deakins. I'm also a huge fan of Mad Max Fury Road, but I get the reluctance to put it on the list.

Also, there's a bit of a US bias, which is to be expected, but no Chung Chung-hoon (Old Boy, Handmaiden), Crouching Tiger Hidden Dragon, or City of God?

Still, I think its a good list. Certainly a good starting point.
Posted by athenslife101
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Posted on 1/21/19 at 10:11 am to
This list is from the American society of cinematographers so I’d imagine them to be fairly biased. Also, cienotographers are a very very tight knit community. They don’t like anyone that isn’t in their club. So yes, I’d think bias is a part of it.

Posted by boxcarbarney
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Posted on 1/21/19 at 10:22 am to
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But nobody was doing this back then and it's been copied non-stop since... YouTube This long-take, look at the shadows, the precision, in brilliant black and white it was brilliant. There's not a single wrong note in lighting and close-ups in this difficult shot. And it starts with basically a new invention and then ends with basically a new invention that was just rediscovered recently with the hand-held that Goddard used.


How the hell did he pull that long shot off?
Posted by Fewer Kilometers
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Posted on 1/21/19 at 10:29 am to
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How the hell did he pull that long shot off?

Probably took more than one take.
I'm guessing.
Posted by boxcarbarney
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Posted on 1/21/19 at 10:34 am to
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Probably took more than one take. I'm guessing.


Well, yeah. I'm talking from a technical standpoint. How was it pulled off?
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Posted on 1/21/19 at 12:26 pm to
That's awesome.
Posted by AlxTgr
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Posted on 1/21/19 at 2:36 pm to
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Well, yeah. I'm talking from a technical standpoint. How was it pulled off?

Drone
Posted by Keep Stirring
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Posted on 1/21/19 at 4:12 pm to
First 2 films that come to my mind are "Once upon a time in the West" & "City of God"
Posted by Mr. Misanthrope
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Posted on 1/21/19 at 8:34 pm to
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No Barry Lyndon. List is shite.

List is pretty good IMO but you're right on about Barry Lyndon. How it's been left off is a mystery.
Posted by Jack Ruby
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Posted on 1/21/19 at 9:31 pm to
Especially since Barry Lyndon is pretty much acknowledged by many as the most beautiful and uniquely shot film of all time.

Every frame of that movie is essentially an artwork.







quote:

Once upon a time in the West


I also thought of this right off. I know the top 10 list is stacked, but what Leone did in that movie was just beautiful.
This post was edited on 1/21/19 at 9:34 pm
Posted by mizzoubuckeyeiowa
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Posted on 1/22/19 at 12:22 am to
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Well, yeah. I'm talking from a technical standpoint. How was it pulled off?


It's a 3-minute tracking shot by crane that goes street level and then on controlled hand-held which nobody was doing at the time...no cuts.

It's been well documented this was a 3+ minute long take and probably the most famous long-take.

Many have tried to copy it.

Most recently Boogie Nights.

The studios once again fricked Welles and butchered his film in editing.

This post was edited on 1/22/19 at 12:24 am
Posted by mizzoubuckeyeiowa
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Posted on 1/22/19 at 12:49 am to
I saw a Heston interview which confirms it was just one long-take...

He said they shot it a few times at night and dawn started to come through as you can see in the Final cut...because the customs agent at the end kept fudging his lines.

So they would have to start over. The scene has ZERO CUTS OR EDITS.

And Heston said that Welles told the actor...if you can't remember the line, don't say anything, just move your lips and we'll dub it in later but we aren't doing this choreographed massive long-take another time.
This post was edited on 1/22/19 at 12:51 am
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Posted on 1/22/19 at 4:02 am to
Thin Red Line
Posted by blueboy
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Posted on 1/22/19 at 10:59 am to
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1. “Lawrence of Arabia” (1962), Freddie Young, BSC (Dir. David Lean)


Completely agree with this one.
I wouldn't argue with it, but I actually think Dr. Zhivago is the most beautifully photographed film ever made. I think they chose the more popular one and left the other out.

I also think A River Runs Through It deserves a spot on the list.
Posted by mizzoubuckeyeiowa
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Posted on 1/22/19 at 12:20 pm to
The great thing about Lawrence is that it's a Smithsonian piece because they will never do that again.

Go on location in the desert.

And the great result is that the desert affected the camera and you see all the results of dry heat in the film and the visual illusions it plays on the audience which can't be manufactured by CGI.





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