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American Society of Cinematographers 10 Best Shot Films

Posted on 1/20/19 at 12:39 pm
Posted by athenslife101
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Posted on 1/20/19 at 12:39 pm
Do you agree?
I heard an interview with one of the guys who helped make this list and he pointed out, only 3 of these won an Oscar the year it came out and some of these weren’t even nominated



The ASC’s top 10 best-shot films of all time are:

1. “Lawrence of Arabia” (1962), Freddie Young, BSC (Dir. David Lean)
2. “Blade Runner” (1982), Jordan Cronenweth, ASC (Dir. Ridley Scott)
3. “Apocalypse Now” (1979), Vittorio Storaro, ASC, AIC (Dir. Francis Ford Coppola)
4. “Citizen Kane” (1941), Gregg Toland, ASC (Dir. Orson Wells)
5. “The Godfather” (1972), Gordon Willis, ASC (Dir. Francis Ford Coppola)
6. “Raging Bull” (1980), Michael Chapman, ASC (Dir. Martin Scorsese)
7. “The Conformist” (1970), Vittorio Storaro, ASC, AIC (Dir. Bernardo Bertolucci)
8. “Days of Heaven” (1978), Néstor Almendros, ASC (Dir. Terrence Malick)
9. “2001: A Space Odyssey” (1968), Geoffrey Unsworth, BSC; additional photography: John Alcott, BSC (Dir. Stanley Kubrick)
10. “The French Connection” (1971), Owen Roizman, ASC (Dir. William Friedkin)

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This post was edited on 1/20/19 at 12:47 pm
Posted by flvelo12
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Posted on 1/20/19 at 12:46 pm to
I would replace French Connection with The Assassination of Jesse James by the Coward Robert Ford. Deakins deserves a spot on that list.
Posted by RollTide1987
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Posted on 1/20/19 at 12:47 pm to
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1. “Lawrence of Arabia” (1962), Freddie Young, BSC (Dir. David Lean)


Completely agree with this one.

Posted by 3nOut
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Posted on 1/20/19 at 12:58 pm to
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The Assassination of Jesse James by the Coward Robert Ford. Deakins deserves a spot on that list.


This list suffered from very unreceny bias. Not that it’s a bad list. Quite the opposite.
Posted by Brosef Stalin
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Posted on 1/20/19 at 1:03 pm to
No Barry Lyndon. List is shite.
Posted by athenslife101
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Posted on 1/20/19 at 1:09 pm to
The interviewer talked about it a little bit. He pretty much said there’s dozens of people who argue this out for days what should and shouldn’t be on the list and being left off the list isn’t necesssrily bad. It gets down into the averages.
Posted by Jack Ruby
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Posted on 1/20/19 at 1:24 pm to
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No Barry Lyndon. List is shite.


I understand the they may have not wanted to put 2 Kubrick films on there and whatever their scoring system was an what not, but Barry Lyndon being left off is going to automatically invalidate the list for most.

You simply can't not have that film on there - - for my money, the most beautifully shot film of all time.

I also understand why the French Connection (one of my favorite films) is on there, but it's kind of an outlier from the rest.
Posted by mizzoubuckeyeiowa
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Posted on 1/20/19 at 1:38 pm to
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1. “Lawrence of Arabia” (1962), Freddie Young, BSC (Dir. David Lean)
4. “Citizen Kane” (1941), Gregg Toland, ASC (Dir. Orson Wells)


These are no brainers.

Apocalypse Now I would not have on this list.

I would add another Kubrick film and another Welles film to the list in the Top 10.

Barry Lyndon and Touch of Evil. Welles and Kubrick were geniuses with the camera.

Coppola set his camera on a tripod and walked away...he shot so many reels of footage hoping for a good shot that the studio was afraid they were going to be bankrupted.
Posted by Freauxzen
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Posted on 1/20/19 at 1:41 pm to
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Apocalypse Now I would not have on this list.



This, French Connection and Raging Bull should be off of the list.

Barry Lyndon, Assassination of Jessie James should be on.

The 3rd film I'd add would either be Stalker, Kagemusha, or Throne of Blood. Tarkovsky or Kurosawa not on the list is kind of sad.

I'd also consider Tree of Life over Days of Heaven for Malick. Days of Heaven is probably more raw, ToL is more beautiful.
This post was edited on 1/20/19 at 1:43 pm
Posted by Rize
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Posted on 1/20/19 at 1:41 pm to
I’ve only seen number 5.
Posted by rebelrouser
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Posted on 1/20/19 at 2:09 pm to
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I’ve only seen number 5.


Wow. Every one is a must watch. I thought Citizen Kane had better shots. Very groundbreaking but yet they have a scene that could have been in any number of movies. Also, Raging Bull fight scene w/ Sugar Ray over the trailer.
Posted by Patrick_Bateman
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Posted on 1/20/19 at 4:31 pm to
Is this the pre-1980 edition?
quote:

Apocalypse Now
Don't understand why this movie is always so highly-rated.
quote:

Raging Bull
Don't particularly remember cinematography in this one.

Some newer ones I like are Road to Perdition and There Will Be Blood.
Posted by rebelrouser
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Posted on 1/20/19 at 4:35 pm to
Raging Bull cinematography was great. Some more Scorsese

goodfellas
Posted by cigsmcgee
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Posted on 1/20/19 at 5:23 pm to
quote:

The Assassination of Jesse James by the Coward Robert Ford. Deakins deserves a spot on that list.


agree about deakins, but Jesse James was basically a doing a Malick thing anyway.

sven nykvist not being on the list is criminal. Robert Elswit has some more worthy work over french connection as well, imo.
Posted by Parmen
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Posted on 1/20/19 at 6:18 pm to
I'd have liked to have seen Black Panther on the list.
Posted by ToesOnTheNose213
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Posted on 1/20/19 at 6:32 pm to
No Conrad Hall, no Deakins in top 10?

And yeah, you gotta have Barry Lindon on that list.
Posted by GetCocky11
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Posted on 1/20/19 at 7:16 pm to
Did they purposefully only include old movies?
Posted by Ace Midnight
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Posted on 1/20/19 at 7:26 pm to
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You simply can't not have that film on there


Some of those scenes were lit with candlelight. In the 1970s.

Period. Full stop.

The technical achievement of this film in particular showcased Kubrick and Allcot's raw, relatively unmatched before or since, technical mastery in capturing moving images on film. I'm not a huge fan of the content of the film itself, but as a cinematography achievement it should be above 2001, IMHO.

And, while we're on the subject, I think Lawrence of Arabia and Bladerunner should be 1a. and 1b. I can't articulate an argument for one over the other.

Posted by Ace Midnight
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Posted on 1/20/19 at 7:30 pm to
quote:

Don't particularly remember cinematography in this one.



The slow motion fight scenes (fighting juxtaposed with dancing, etc.) are what brings it to the list. Again, I'm a bigger fan of what Marty did with Taxi Driver (also Marty partnered with Chapman) and Goodfellas (Ballhaus, RIP), but from a artsy fartsy standpoint I - sort of - get why they picked Raging Bull.
This post was edited on 1/20/19 at 7:31 pm
Posted by Ace Midnight
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Posted on 1/20/19 at 7:33 pm to
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agree about deakins,


The Deakins film to represent him on such a list should be No Country for Old Men, should it not?

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