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re: ABC pulls 'Jimmy Kimmel Live' off air 'indefintely' over Charlie Kirk comments

Posted on 9/17/25 at 8:50 pm to
Posted by Pettifogger
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Posted on 9/17/25 at 8:50 pm to
Against the backdrop of his political compatriots selling a false narrative that the shooter was not a leftist, he went out and intentionally - and quite clearly - continued to peddle that narrative even after the factual air had cleared and shown that deceptive narrative to be false.

Posted by SouthEasternKaiju
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Posted on 9/17/25 at 8:50 pm to
No, this is nothing but arguing for the sake of arguing. Kimmel didn’t “literally” say the exact word for word thing, therefore he could’ve meant something else? That is such autistic level bullshite, especially given in the context of what happened and who Jimmy Kimmel is, has been for the past 9 + years . ( oh, am I supposed to supply the exact date and on what show Kimmel started his anti-Trump vitriol?) Because that is what this is. Just an industry promoting propaganda, thinking they have to fight back against Trump for getting Colbert fired when it was actually his own goddamn shitty ratings and costing $50 million more than his show was bringing in. But of course that’s a issue for another thread.
Posted by Pettifogger
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Posted on 9/17/25 at 8:52 pm to
The "gracious to Kimmel" interpretation is a reach to begin with, but would have more merit if the backdrop wasn't people like Kimmel attempting desperately to sell a false narrative about assassination.

He knew what he was saying/doing, everyone else interpreted it as he intended, and thankfully he's getting his overdue comeuppance.
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Posted on 9/17/25 at 8:53 pm to
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Against the backdrop of his political compatriots selling a false narrative that the shooter was not a leftist
That is true.
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he went out and intentionally - and quite clearly - continued to peddle that narrative
Except what he said was not remotely close to insinuating that

The point Kimmel was making was that MAGA was more concerned with finger pointing and scoring political point, than grieving.

It is a completely retarded thing for him to say, and people should mock him for it. . .but it doesn't give license to lie and claim he said a completely different thing, because that is the easier thing to hate.
Posted by AUFANATL
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Posted on 9/17/25 at 8:54 pm to

I despise what Kimmel has become, but I'm a bit curious about this. My understanding is these late shows, unlike SNL, are filmed in front of a studio audience at like 5:00 pm and then the master tapes are sent to corporate where they get edited, polished and commercialed and network's final version gets beamed out to the affiliates. So ABC knew about this hours in advance and still aired it? I would also be shocked if every person who appears in front of a camera didn't get a "tread lightly" memo this week.

But this is probably all pretext. And it wouldn't surprise me if it was planned to play the victim card. If Colbert's show was losing $40 million then so was Kimmels. His ratings are also terrible and his show is more expensive to produce. I suspect this show was toast and this way the get to go out blaming Trump.
Posted by Fun Bunch
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Posted on 9/17/25 at 9:08 pm to
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Except what he said was not remotely close to insinuating that


What
Posted by RobbBobb
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Posted on 9/17/25 at 9:11 pm to
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Where is the quote where he says the kid was on the right or MAGA?

Dude its pretty simple English. Lets parse this sentence by Kimmel together. Shall we? "the MAGA gang desperately trying to characterize this kid who murdered Charlie Kirk as anything other than one of them"
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The MAGA Gang

The MAGA gang is synonymous with Trump and the right. There is no debate on this
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desperately trying to characterize this kid who murdered Charlie Kirk

The shooter. Again no gray area here
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as anything other than one of them

Cha-ching, the money shot, "one of them"

I mean, c'mon? 'One of them' means MAGA, because Kimmel pointed the finger right at that group, and in hos words claimed the shooter was one of them. And that MAGA was desperately denying that
Posted by Roaad
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Posted on 9/17/25 at 9:14 pm to
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What


Let me help you out!

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The MAGA Gang desperately trying to characterize this kid who murdered Charlie Kirk as anything other than one of them and doing everything they can to score political points from it,” Kimmel said.

“In between the finger-pointing, there was grieving,” he added.
Now show me where he insinuated that the shooter WAS "one of them"

What he IS saying from the context was that MAGA was more concerned with finger pointing and scoring political point, than grieving.

Not saying it is an accurate take by him, and I don't agree with the take.
Posted by Madking
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Posted on 9/17/25 at 9:16 pm to
100% wrong
Posted by Roaad
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Posted on 9/17/25 at 9:16 pm to
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Dude its pretty simple English.
fully agree

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The MAGA gang is synonymous with Trump and the right. There is no debate on this
Correct

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The shooter. Again no gray area here
correct.

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'One of them' means MAGA,
Correct! You are doing really well so far!

He is clearly saying that "Maga was desperately trying to characterize this kid who murdered Charlie Kirk as anything other than one of them"

Now where does he say that the shooter WAS "one of them"?
This post was edited on 9/17/25 at 9:18 pm
Posted by Roaad
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Posted on 9/17/25 at 9:18 pm to
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100% wrong
Show your work
Posted by SouthEasternKaiju
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Posted on 9/17/25 at 9:20 pm to
Anyone can just watch the clip of what Jimmy said, his attitude and his smarmy delivery to know that he was lying when he said this was all just to score. “political points“. I mean, Jesus fricking Christ, this is one of the most gruesome, high def assassinations, probably in the history of media, and here Kimmel is riffing jokes, and trying to dunk on the current president.

This goes beyond being tone deaf, political partisanship, and every measure of human decency.


Posted by Madking
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Posted on 9/17/25 at 9:20 pm to
If you say to someone “you’re incorrectly blaming everyone else” who do you think that’s implicating?
Posted by thelegendofthepast
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Posted on 9/17/25 at 9:21 pm to
Alot of people got cancelled on the right during and post covid and George Floyd. Its yalls times to feel the wrath and get cancelled. Welcome to the real world!
Posted by Roaad
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Posted on 9/17/25 at 9:22 pm to
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Anyone can just watch the clip of what Jimmy said, his attitude and his smarmy delivery to know that he was lying when he said this was all just to score. “political points“. I mean, Jesus fricking Christ, this is one of the most gruesome, high def assassinations, probably in the history of media, and here Kimmel is riffing jokes, and trying to dunk on the current president.

This goes beyond being tone deaf, political partisanship, and every measure of human decency.
See, I agree with everything except the "lying".

I don't think he was lying, I think he was wrong. There is a difference

I think he believes that to be true, which makes him wrong. Lying is saying something you know to be untrue.
Posted by Roaad
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Posted on 9/17/25 at 9:23 pm to
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If you say to someone “you’re incorrectly blaming everyone else” who do you think that’s implicating?
He didn't say "incorrectly"

See, now that WOULD be an implication
Posted by Madking
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Posted on 9/17/25 at 9:24 pm to
He said they wanted it to be true so they could use it for political gain. I wonder if you’re trolling
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Posted on 9/17/25 at 9:26 pm to
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He said they wanted it to be true so they could use it for political gain.
he didn't say "they wanted it to be true" either, because that would be a soft implication
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Posted on 9/17/25 at 9:29 pm to
So you are trolling. Ok
Posted by Pettifogger
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Posted on 9/17/25 at 9:29 pm to
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Except what he said was not remotely close to insinuating that The point Kimmel was making was that MAGA was more concerned with finger pointing and scoring political point, than grieving


LOL

The first clause of the quoted passage is just entire surplusage then - he could have just said MAGA is trying to score political points.

Words are presumed to have meaning, your interpretation would render half the relevant language meaningless. It’s an incredible reach and it’s why you’re on an island here.
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