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re: 1899 Discussion Thread (New Show on Netflix from the Creators of Dark) - SPOILERS!

Posted on 11/29/22 at 10:58 am to
Posted by Billy Blanks
Member since Dec 2021
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Posted on 11/29/22 at 10:58 am to
quote:

Didn't Maura's father say the simulation kept failing because every time, everyone makes their choices based on love or emotions (something like that) instead of rationality or logic (something like that)?


That's not really what he said, or meant.
What he said was...

[after watching some of the last few people die on the ship at the end of episode 7]
"Every time they make the same mistakes.
And every time they die.
Because they can't get rid of their emotions.
And that's what makes them weak.
It's human natures ultimate flaw.
One shouldn't base a choice on love, anger, hate.
They are just silly feelings that just cloud the mind."





What did he mean by that do you think?
Posted by BOSCEAUX
Where the Down Boys go.
Member since Mar 2008
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Posted on 11/29/22 at 2:05 pm to
I don’t even know where to start with my questions.

1. So everyone that died on the ship was basically a NPC? Our main characters are making decisions inside the sim.

2. I realize the ship is a simulation. What is it’s purpose? What are the “side simulations” that appear to go to bad times in the persons life.

3. Are the flashbacks just a way of building the backstory and showing us who is real? Is their a deeper meaning to them?

4. Final scene. Where to start. Is it another simulation? Is it real and the ship simulation is a way to occupy the mind on the long journey to find another home planet (like a sort of cryostasis)?

If it is another simulation what is the purpose of layers upon layers of simulations?

I’m assuming all the black shite chasing them on the ship is that simulation breaking down.

I’m not to proud to admit that I’m confused as frick.
Posted by Billy Blanks
Member since Dec 2021
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Posted on 11/29/22 at 4:52 pm to
Solid Q's
Posted by Boodis Man
Member since Sep 2020
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Posted on 11/29/22 at 6:49 pm to
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I’m assuming all the black shite chasing them on the ship is that simulation breaking down.


monkeypox most likely
Posted by BOSCEAUX
Where the Down Boys go.
Member since Mar 2008
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Posted on 11/30/22 at 1:01 pm to
I really hope more people watch this. Feels like a show where the discussion can go super deep.
Posted by bigberg2000
houston, from chalmette
Member since Sep 2005
70585 posts
Posted on 12/1/22 at 10:54 am to
quote:

I really hope more people watch this. Feels like a show where the discussion can go super deep.




Yeah I finished last night. Its a mind bender for sure. I like this kind of stuff but never really sit down to watch them so its even more confusing to me.
Posted by horsesandbulls
Destin, FL
Member since Jun 2008
5148 posts
Posted on 12/1/22 at 3:17 pm to
quote:

I’m assuming all the black shite chasing them on the ship is that simulation breaking down.


It’s a virus. One that appears to be able to work faster due to Daniels meddling with the code.

I think the space ship is reality, not another simulation. Maura’s brother has taken over and it’s game on to take control of the ship.

Questions I have: is it an exploratory mission or a “save humanity” mission? What is the significance of the 1899 setting? How are everyone’s memories important (beyond a plot device to keep the audience believing in the 1899 setting)? When is season 2 coming out?
Posted by Big_Slim
Mogadishu
Member since Apr 2016
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Posted on 12/2/22 at 12:11 am to
Awesome show. Could be an apocalyptic event on earth that made the last humans go to space, and Maura’s brother goes ape shite and decides he wants to be the Mark Zuckerberg of the simulation since it’s preferable to reality.

Got some I want to scream but have no mouth vibes - especially when the group is weaving in and out of the power lines in the walls of the simulation and is facing incomprehensible terror.

Really well done. The ticking seen was fricking bananas.
Posted by Merlin1200
Member since Jun 2020
205 posts
Posted on 12/2/22 at 7:47 am to
On your question 4- I thought that at first (simulation to keep mind occupied on long sleep journey). Now thinking about it, I think the space ship is another simulation. That would be a pretty messed up cyber sleep dream to sign up for if it was just to pass the time, right? I'd hope my travel dream was something better than being trapped on a sinking ship reliving terrible memories (real or simulated).
Posted by Billy Blanks
Member since Dec 2021
4991 posts
Posted on 12/2/22 at 10:43 am to
Wish season 2 was out now. I'm midway through Dark due to this thread. It's a good one.

Not sure what I'll watch after.
Posted by bigberg2000
houston, from chalmette
Member since Sep 2005
70585 posts
Posted on 12/2/22 at 10:55 am to
quote:

I'm midway through Dark due to this thread


Yeah I guess I am going to have to start this soon.
Posted by Sl0thstronautEsq
Member since Aug 2018
16691 posts
Posted on 12/2/22 at 11:32 am to
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Not sure what I'll watch after.


Black Spot on Netflix is a really underrated show. It's French and has a Twin Peaks-ish vibe. Unfortunately, it got canceled after 2 seasons.
Posted by TouchedTheAxeIn82
near the Apple spaceship
Member since Nov 2012
7015 posts
Posted on 12/2/22 at 11:51 am to
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Not sure what I'll watch after.

I just finished Counterpart (2 seasons) on Amazon Prime, starring JK Simmons. It's kind of like a Cold War thriller with a sci-fi twist. It's not as complex as Dark, but it has a similar issue of trying to keep track of who is who (but a lot easier to deal with than Dark). Has a good ending. Highly recommended.
Posted by SouthMSReb
Member since Dec 2013
4711 posts
Posted on 12/2/22 at 1:44 pm to
So it seems like every other main character had killed someone in the past and trying to deal with that trauma. It’s likely that Maura killed Elliot, correct?
Posted by Billy Blanks
Member since Dec 2021
4991 posts
Posted on 12/5/22 at 10:37 am to
My goodness. Dark is so good. I'm now on season 3.
Posted by UnluckyTiger
Member since Sep 2003
41831 posts
Posted on 12/5/22 at 11:59 am to
quote:

Dark seems decent, definitely slower.



quote:

My goodness. Dark is so good. I'm now on season 3.
Posted by Sl0thstronautEsq
Member since Aug 2018
16691 posts
Posted on 12/5/22 at 12:15 pm to
Posted by Billy Blanks
Member since Dec 2021
4991 posts
Posted on 12/5/22 at 1:52 pm to


Posted by CockHolliday
Columbia, SC
Member since Dec 2012
4812 posts
Posted on 12/5/22 at 11:45 pm to
A question I have, is what was the deal with the green beetle going to Ada as the "first victim" and Daniel saying he's sorry? What was the purpose of this in the simulation?
Posted by Sl0thstronautEsq
Member since Aug 2018
16691 posts
Posted on 12/6/22 at 10:08 am to
quote:

what was the deal with the green beetle going to Ada as the "first victim" and Daniel saying he's sorry? What was the purpose of this in the simulation?


There are some good theories in this Reddit thread: Theory About Ada

I imagine Ada needed to "die" (or get turned off) in order for Daniel to start manipulating the simulation.
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