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re: You have to start an MLB team with a pitcher/hitter from the same team...

Posted on 4/30/14 at 11:20 am to
Posted by papz
Austin, TX
Member since Jul 2008
9363 posts
Posted on 4/30/14 at 11:20 am to
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they all look like Joses to you huh?


Posted by Moustache
GEAUX TIGERS
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Posted on 4/30/14 at 11:21 am to
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Wacha and Taveras will be the answer in 2 years.


Great answer.
Posted by GynoSandberg
Bay St Louis, MS
Member since Jan 2006
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Posted on 4/30/14 at 11:22 am to
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yeah, you've apparently read nothing about the guy's past or comments from his own personal coach, Orlando Chinea.

I don't give a frick about watching a HR. I do give a frick and think it's disrespectful to spit at Chris Johnson as you're rounding 3rd. He was known for spitting on opposing players in HS too, which leads me to believe it wasn't an accident. That was the bigger deal, moreso than watching the HR.


A baseball player spit in the vicinity of another player? How many times a game does this happen? I think Chris Johnson proved he was an oversensitive bitch, especially pulling the "hold me back" move when he clearly could've tussled if he wanted a piece.

Anyway, I don't have a problem with the way he or Harper acted, but it's hypocrisy to knock one and praise the other.

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Really? A guy who has a long swing and struggles to hit for average usually declines as he nears 30, moreso than others.


Stanton has a long swing? He may be 6'6" but he is pretty short to the ball. We aren't talking Adam Dunn here (who has a 38, 41, and 34 HR season post age 30 )

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I'm just a bigger believer in Harper than Stanton based on total skills instead of just power (which Harper is pretty close if not equal to Stanton) and I think Strasburg/Fernandez will pretty much be interchangeable or the difference wouldn't make up the difference between Stanton and Harper.



I don't think anyone would argue that Harper is closer to a 5 tool guy than Stanton. But to say their power is equal is silly. Stanton already has 34 and 37 (123 games!) HR seasons at age 21 and 22. Harper hasn't broken 22 yet. Stanton is going to hit 40 easily if he plays 150 games. Harper won't even sniff that ever.
Posted by bbap
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2006
96490 posts
Posted on 4/30/14 at 11:22 am to
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Wacha and Taveras will be the answer in 2 years.


Great answer.



not really considering it wasnt even the question.

The answer is definitely fernandez/stanton
Posted by Moustache
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Member since May 2008
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Posted on 4/30/14 at 11:25 am to
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why do you think Wood is a SP4 or bullpen arm?


I think he's more likely to be a SP3. Mainly, his lack of a great breaking ball makes me think he won't be a frontline starter. Now, his changeup is plus, but if he can get it to 2006-08 Johan Santana levels, then it's possible he can be a starter.

Right now, my fear is that he's similar to Collmenter in that once his windup is scouted and seen a little more, that teams will start to adjust and hit him better. Which means his slurve better start being more swing and miss or his changeup better move from great to incredible.

I like Alex wood, I really do. I am just not ready to crown him an Ace like many Braves fans have. I remain skeptical and I'm a little more bearish on him than most fans.
Posted by tzimme4
Metairie
Member since Jan 2008
30123 posts
Posted on 4/30/14 at 11:25 am to
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they all look like Joses to you huh?

I'm trying to figure out what's funny here
Posted by papz
Austin, TX
Member since Jul 2008
9363 posts
Posted on 4/30/14 at 11:25 am to
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Do you want me to add a disclaimer of "this is solely my opinion, please don't get butthurt" before every post? Christ...


Naw, you're good. It's been embedded into your persona.

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Oh for fricks' sake. Go read reports on Wood. Let me know how many of them mention he's a frontline starter vs. how many mention he's a #3/#4 guy with potential in the bullpen if that doesn't work out.


I've read both sides... which is why I said it's stupid to dismiss the possibility right off the bat.


Posted by bbap
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2006
96490 posts
Posted on 4/30/14 at 11:26 am to
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they all look like Joses to you huh?

I'm trying to figure out what's funny here



he wrote Jose Cueto. His name is Johnny Cueto.
Posted by tzimme4
Metairie
Member since Jan 2008
30123 posts
Posted on 4/30/14 at 11:28 am to
Thats because I have both on my fantasy staff. Numbers wise they are this year. My mistake
This post was edited on 4/30/14 at 11:29 am
Posted by Moustache
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Member since May 2008
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Posted on 4/30/14 at 11:28 am to
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A baseball player spit in the vicinity of another player? How many times a game does this happen? I think Chris Johnson proved he was an oversensitive bitch, especially pulling the "hold me back" move when he clearly could've tussled if he wanted a piece.


Jesus. There's a differnce in spitting in the vicinity of players and spitting at them. You're being dense.

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Stanton has a long swing? He may be 6'6" but he is pretty short to the ball. We aren't talking Adam Dunn here (who has a 38, 41, and 34 HR season post age 30 )


It's not retard long like Reynolds or Dunn, but it's long enough for me to bet on him not hitting .300 in his career barring an incredible BABIP like Donaldson had last year.
I like Stanton, but I prefer the whole package (speed, d, arm, power, average) than just power.
Posted by Lester Earl
3rd Ward
Member since Nov 2003
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Posted on 4/30/14 at 11:28 am to
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Right now, my fear is that he's similar to Collmenter in that once his windup is scouted and seen a little more,



i think he's way more talented than Collmenter. a 6'4" LHP that throws low 90s isnt comparable to a righty that throws 86 with a funky delivery
Posted by Tiger Ryno
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Posted on 4/30/14 at 11:30 am to
Chris Carter and Chad qualls
Posted by papz
Austin, TX
Member since Jul 2008
9363 posts
Posted on 4/30/14 at 11:31 am to
It was the sterotype... nevermind.
Posted by CQQ
Member since Feb 2006
17048 posts
Posted on 4/30/14 at 11:34 am to
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Strasburg and Harper are close IMO. Fernandez is great, but I do have some worry about a pitcher who had success so young, especially with his immaturity at times.

harper has a much brighter future than Stanton IMO. Usually, guys with "young man" skills (speed, agility, etc.) age better than guys without it. Stanton has unmatched power, but I really start to wonder how well he'll keep his average up when his bat speed starts to slow down around age 29/30.


God this post is dumb as frick

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think it's disrespectful to spit at Chris Johnson as you're rounding 3rd.


This too. Chris Johnson is a bitch.
This post was edited on 4/30/14 at 11:37 am
Posted by Moustache
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Member since May 2008
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Posted on 4/30/14 at 11:35 am to
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i think he's way more talented than Collmenter. a 6'4" LHP that throws low 90s isnt comparable to a righty that throws 86 with a funky delivery



Oh, I perfectly agree. I don't think Collmenter has the talent to stick around on an MLB roster for much longer.

I just think Wood's deceptively delivery right now is probably inflating his numbers a bit.
Posted by lsu480
Downtown Scottsdale
Member since Oct 2007
92893 posts
Posted on 4/30/14 at 11:35 am to
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Justin Verlander and Miguel Cabrera


This or Cabrera and Scherzer.

Posted by Moustache
GEAUX TIGERS
Member since May 2008
21609 posts
Posted on 4/30/14 at 11:42 am to
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This too. Chris Johnson is a bitch.


Ok. Now I know not to respond to any of your posts. You've shown your ignorance and lack of knowledge. Instead of using logic or facts/stats to back your opinion you just call someone a bitch or dumb as frick. You're a regular scholar.



Posted by PortCityTiger24
Member since Dec 2006
87455 posts
Posted on 4/30/14 at 11:45 am to
GFY
Posted by The Sad Banana
The gate is narrow.
Member since Jul 2008
89507 posts
Posted on 4/30/14 at 11:51 am to
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Cole and Cutch
That is a very, very, very good one that I totally forgot about.
Posted by VerlanderBEAST
Member since Dec 2011
19148 posts
Posted on 4/30/14 at 11:53 am to
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MadBum is young, but already has three 200 IP seasons under his belt.
Is that a bad thing?
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