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re: WSU track and field eliminating all field events, limiting sprints and hurdles in future
Posted on 6/17/25 at 9:45 am to Mingo Was His NameO
Posted on 6/17/25 at 9:45 am to Mingo Was His NameO
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They can afford it, they choose not to. Iowa states athletic department made $10 million dollars in profit in 2023 after a metric shite ton of waste and now they want to cry poor because they don’t get to keep all the money. It’s total bullshite, and people want to blame the athletes. Pathetic
i dont blame the athletes I blame people who kept pushing thinking there would never be any push back on the system.
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Posted on 6/17/25 at 9:46 am to lsu777
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i dont blame the athletes I blame people who kept pushing thinking there would never be any push back on the system.
You should be blaming the administrators who stuck their heads up their asses and refused to act in good faith
Posted on 6/17/25 at 9:47 am to lsu777
investing in facilities would be stupid right now. Players are only going for money. They dont care about facilities. Making upgrades for the sake of fans would make some sense but the days of spending on glamorous locker rooms is on pause until further notice.
Posted on 6/17/25 at 9:51 am to notsince98
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investing in facilities would be stupid right now. Players are only going for money. They dont care about facilities. Making upgrades for the sake of fans would make some sense but the days of spending on glamorous locker rooms is on pause until further notice.
agree, problem is many schools took on debt to do those, they are still paying.
Posted on 6/17/25 at 9:56 am to tiggerthetooth
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I dont know how any track program makes money.
They don't.
With very few exceptions, the only sports that turn a profit at the vast majority of schools are football and men's basketball.
Only a small number of athletic departments operated at a profit overall once you factored in all the non-revenue sports. So now AD's that already operate at a deficit are going to be forced to cut sports since now they're having to put $20M a year towards "revenue sharing" to pay football and basketball players directly...on top of the cost for scholarships, housing, and feeding them too.
I don't see how athletic departments outside of P4 conferences will be able to afford to keep operating without significantly cutting the number of non-revenue sports they sponsor. Even some programs at schools with P4 money will probably end up on the chopping block. Its pretty sad considering how many scholarships and opportunities are going to be lost by actual student athletes who won't have professional athletic opportunities and were using their sport as a means to actually get an education.
This post was edited on 6/17/25 at 10:01 am
Posted on 6/17/25 at 10:03 am to MUMFORD
This sucks and it's no surprise. WSU has a former LSU national champ in Gabriel Mvumvure, so he may have to start looking for employment elsewhere if they're going to gut funding for sprints.
Posted on 6/17/25 at 10:32 am to ImJustaBoy
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Washington State and Oregon State need to suck it up and join the Mountain West. You obviously aren’t as “prestigious” as you think you are and will fit in fine with Boosie State, SDSU, UNLV, Wyoming, Colorado State. Their athletics will probably actually flourish and create much better rivals. They will no longer be little brother in the conference.
None of that will help fund the T&F program, unless they just want to be completely non competitive in football even in the lower conference. Lots of schools are going to have to start making cuts/eliminations of track, tennis and golf programs. Probably volleyball too.
Posted on 6/17/25 at 10:35 am to Tiger Prawn
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Its pretty sad considering how many scholarships and opportunities are going to be lost by actual student athletes who won't have professional athletic opportunities and were using their sport as a means to actually get an education.
This right here.
Posted on 6/17/25 at 10:42 am to ImJustaBoy
Aren't all those teams joining the PAC 10?
Posted on 6/17/25 at 11:22 am to ImJustaBoy
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Boosie State
It's hype over there
Posted on 6/17/25 at 11:31 am to ImJustaBoy
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Washington State and Oregon State need to suck it up and join the Mountain West. You obviously aren’t as “prestigious” as you think you are and will fit in fine with Bosie State, SDSU, UNLV, Wyoming, Colorado State. Their athletics will probably actually flourish and create much better rivals. They will no longer be little brother in the conference.
Boise State, Colorado State, Utah State, Fresno State, San Diego State, and Gonzaga have already accepted invitations to the Pac and will become members in 2026.
Apparently Texas State is in heavy discussions w/them at the moment as well.
Posted on 6/17/25 at 1:01 pm to chalmetteowl
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what do those people want to replace them?
They don't and they also have likely never attended/watched a college athletic event.
Posted on 6/17/25 at 1:03 pm to lsu777
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investing in facilities would be stupid right now. Players are only going for money. They dont care about facilities. Making upgrades for the sake of fans would make some sense but the days of spending on glamorous locker rooms is on pause until further notice.
agree, problem is many schools took on debt to do those, they are still paying.
The not so hidden secret of the past 35 years of college sports, big and small school invested in a ton of facilities and still owe a lot of money. I'm not just talking football and basketball, but new baseball, track, gymnastics, swimming, indoor practice buildings, etc. In fy23 LSU had nearly $5 million in debt service, not horrible, but not great either.
And like many homeowners know this is the not the best market for refinancing debt.
Posted on 6/17/25 at 1:49 pm to Tiger Prawn
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ts pretty sad considering how many scholarships and opportunities are going to be lost by actual student athletes who won't have professional athletic opportunities and were using their sport as a means to actually get an education.
But the QB and the point guard need a Lambo, baw! And they can't be waiting 3 years to get it. Need it now.
Posted on 6/17/25 at 1:49 pm to NOLALGD
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In fy23 LSU had nearly $5 million in debt service, not horrible, but not great either.
LSU could pay that with funds made by the baseball regional if they wanted to
Posted on 6/17/25 at 1:54 pm to MUMFORD
My question is how all of this will affect Title IX. Colleges haves used the small sports to offset football numbers. Are the courts going to hold colleges accountable for “equitable” offerings if college athletics are now a professional endeavor.
Posted on 6/17/25 at 2:01 pm to Mingo Was His NameO
LSU burns cash going to Omaha. They get national exposure and probably a bit from media rights income. Housing an entire baseball program for almost 2 weeks is not cheap. I think the program was at a pretty big deficit when they won in 2023.
This post was edited on 6/17/25 at 2:02 pm
Posted on 6/17/25 at 2:14 pm to ShaneTheLegLechler
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They don’t. College sports were never originally intended to make money
College sports were once the great American communist experiment
Posted on 6/17/25 at 2:59 pm to Cliff Booth
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But the QB and the point guard need a Lambo, baw!
Yep. Gotta give them their money, with a very good chance that neither graduate college, especially if one goes through multiple transfers. One of the two definitely doesn't make it in the pros, so yeah...no meaningful way to make an income.
Meanwhile, the kid for whom being a long jumper on scholarship was his only chance at a college degree without a shite ton of debt is now also SOL.
Great.
Posted on 6/17/25 at 3:06 pm to ragincajun03
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Yep. Gotta give them their money, with a very good chance that neither graduate college, especially if one goes through multiple transfers. One of the two definitely doesn't make it in the pros, so yeah...no meaningful way to make an income. Meanwhile, the kid for whom being a long jumper on scholarship was his only chance at a college degree without a shite ton of debt is now also SOL. Great.
Big athletic programs have “associate athletic directors” for every sport making hundreds of thousands of dollars a year each.
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