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Would Catholic-BR have won a state title had the split never happened?
Posted on 12/3/18 at 12:20 pm
Posted on 12/3/18 at 12:20 pm
It's safe to say that Catholic-BR has benefited from the split more than any other team.
Before the split, Catholic-BR was the equivalent of the Minnesota Vikings, the Phoenix Suns, and West Virginia football: a supreme program that would lose with superior teams when it actually counted, the most notable examples being 1996 and 2006. Since the split, they have 2 state titles and have made it to the dome once again.
Before the split, Catholic-BR was the equivalent of the Minnesota Vikings, the Phoenix Suns, and West Virginia football: a supreme program that would lose with superior teams when it actually counted, the most notable examples being 1996 and 2006. Since the split, they have 2 state titles and have made it to the dome once again.
This post was edited on 12/3/18 at 12:23 pm
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Posted on 12/3/18 at 12:21 pm to karmew32
Of course not
Posted on 12/3/18 at 12:22 pm to karmew32
What about all the non select 1 and 2 A schools?
Posted on 12/3/18 at 12:24 pm to karmew32
It’s funny. Schools like St Amant, EA, etc were all for the split so they wouldn’t have to play an unfair matchup vs Catholic in the playoffs. Ya know, since Catholic could get their kids.
And now, Catholic gets even more kids from those areas because they want to play for state championships. So, thanks?
Eta: Catholic has repeatedly voted against and lobbied against the split since the conversation of split even started.
And now, Catholic gets even more kids from those areas because they want to play for state championships. So, thanks?
Eta: Catholic has repeatedly voted against and lobbied against the split since the conversation of split even started.
This post was edited on 12/3/18 at 12:28 pm
Posted on 12/3/18 at 12:28 pm to karmew32
quote:and they beat two superior teams for those titles... and to win another one they have to beat another superior team
Before the split, Catholic-BR was the equivalent of the Minnesota Vikings, the Phoenix Suns, and West Virginia football: a supreme program that would lose with superior teams when it actually counted, the most notable examples being 1996 and 2006. Since the split, they have 2 state titles and have made it to the dome once again.
Posted on 12/3/18 at 12:29 pm to karmew32
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It's safe to say that Catholic-BR has benefited from the split more than any other team.
I'm gonna go with Welsh and Kinder.
John Curtis would have beaten them 66-7 in the 2A semifinals.
Posted on 12/3/18 at 12:32 pm to chalmetteowl
Before the split, Zachary never won a state title, and now they have 2 in 5a and are competing for a third just like CHS is in D1......
So if a new team in public 5a is winning, just like a new team in D1 is winning, saying its "due to the split" is dumb as shite
Both programs happen to be peaking post split, not "due to the split"
So if a new team in public 5a is winning, just like a new team in D1 is winning, saying its "due to the split" is dumb as shite
Both programs happen to be peaking post split, not "due to the split"
This post was edited on 12/3/18 at 12:33 pm
Posted on 12/3/18 at 12:34 pm to Macintosh504
quote:Explain. Catholic beat the 5a state champion last year, and beat one of the teams in the 5a title game again this year......
Of course not
Posted on 12/3/18 at 12:36 pm to lsupride87
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Both programs happen to be peaking post split, not "due to the split"
but every year now in 5A, one program wins a title they wouldn't have won before
Posted on 12/3/18 at 12:39 pm to lsutigers1992
I agree Welsh has made it to the Dome 2 years in a row and the Semis 3 of the last 4 years. No way they would have done that without the Split
Posted on 12/3/18 at 12:40 pm to chalmetteowl
quote:Correct
but every year now in 5A, one program wins a title they wouldn't have won before
2015 -Zachary and Catholic won 5a and D1- I will give that year to Zachary because they won the regular season matchup
2017- Zachary and Catholic won 5a and D1- I will give that year to Catholic because they won the regular season matchup
2018-Both teams in the finals again, and again Catholic beat Zachary in the regular season
This post was edited on 12/3/18 at 12:41 pm
Posted on 12/3/18 at 12:44 pm to karmew32
The teams that have benefited the most are the teams that have been irrelevant for forever making semifinals and dome appearances. Catholic has always had talent, I think having Clyde Edwards-Helaire and Derrius Guice is a pretty argument against anyone saying Catholic would not have won had it not been for the split.
The split is a house of cards, I think it has tops another 5 years in its current incarnation before either massive changes or a complete and total split happens, not just the playoffs.
The split is a house of cards, I think it has tops another 5 years in its current incarnation before either massive changes or a complete and total split happens, not just the playoffs.
Posted on 12/3/18 at 12:47 pm to chalmetteowl
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but every year now in 5A, one program wins a title they wouldn't have won before
Damn u smart.
Catholic votes against the split. They are benefiting from what the public schools wanted, not them. I'll just leave this here. Their path has not been easy by any means:
2015: Brother Martin (3), Evangel (2) , Rummel (1)
2017: Shaw (13), St Aug (5), Evangel (1), John Curtis (2)
2018: St Aug (10), Rummel (3), John Curtis (1)
This post was edited on 12/3/18 at 12:52 pm
Posted on 12/3/18 at 12:49 pm to RGJ18
quote:And so did Zachary
Catholic votes against the split
It seems to be poetic justice that those two teams keep winning. And considering West Monroe did not vote against the split (the most cowardly school of all IMHO), I will be rooting hard for the Broncs on saturday
Posted on 12/3/18 at 12:51 pm to SWLA92
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I agree Welsh has made it to the Dome 2 years in a row and the Semis 3 of the last 4 years. No way they would have done that without the Split
I don't see anything wrong with the split other than there are too many divisions. Consolidate to a 4-3 split and it would be a near perfect competitive balance amongst peers
Posted on 12/3/18 at 12:53 pm to karmew32
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Would Catholic-BR have won a state title had the split never happened?
I don't think so, if we couldn't win a state title in the 40+ years we played LA HS football pre-split with all the talent we had, what were the indications we would win a state title in the future had the split never occurred in the first place? It is what it is.
Posted on 12/3/18 at 12:54 pm to lsupride87
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I will be rooting hard for the Broncs on saturday
Same here. A lot of respect for Zachary. Go Bears and Broncs.
Posted on 12/3/18 at 12:55 pm to lsupride87
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And considering West Monroe did not vote against the split (the most cowardly school of all IMHO),
I do not fault them at all for this reason, they really did not have much of anything to gain, they were a dominant/great program before the split and after it just made it easier. I think for their other sports is truly where they made the decision even though football is king. The kids, coaches, fans, and the state has truly missed out there have been some incredible what could have been matchups if you combine Division 1/5A schools these last few years alone.
Posted on 12/3/18 at 12:56 pm to CoastTrashTiger
Why is that only in sports do grown adults care where other adults send their kids?
The public school system isn’t entitled to any child’s gifts. If the parents think their kid is better off in a private institution they have every right. It’s called the free market.
Those who think the private schools are the problem seem to ignore the public school recruiting.
It’s prep football. The experience should be about building character work ethic and teamwork. Winning is way down that list.
The public school system isn’t entitled to any child’s gifts. If the parents think their kid is better off in a private institution they have every right. It’s called the free market.
Those who think the private schools are the problem seem to ignore the public school recruiting.
It’s prep football. The experience should be about building character work ethic and teamwork. Winning is way down that list.
This post was edited on 12/3/18 at 1:21 pm
Posted on 12/3/18 at 12:56 pm to CoastTrashTiger
quote:everyone thinks their team is talented... but talent is relative, and some teams are just not
Catholic has always had talent, I think having Clyde Edwards-Helaire and Derrius Guice is a pretty argument against anyone saying Catholic would not have won had it not been for the split.
depth and having a great roster 1-50 is what gets to the Dome.
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