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re: Will there ever be a greater pitcher than Nolan Ryan in the modern era?
Posted on 7/21/16 at 11:09 am to jglass3lsu
Posted on 7/21/16 at 11:09 am to jglass3lsu
Can you judge people with different arm slots against each other? How about people that do not have a ton of high stress pitching situations?
Pitchers all have different styles and staminas. Schilling is well known to have pitch longer than necessary, but how do you accurately quantify that?
Pitchers all have different styles and staminas. Schilling is well known to have pitch longer than necessary, but how do you accurately quantify that?
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Posted on 7/21/16 at 11:17 am to McCaigBro69
quote:if Kershaw never pitched again, hed still probably make the hall of fame. Considering that never happens for anyone who only pitches for 9 years, I'd have no problem with putting him over ryan
I do have one question, what if this back injury ruins Kershaw and he is never the same again? Would you still think that? I can't justify saying a guy who was elite for like 7-8 years but called it quits is better than someone who performed at a high level for 27-years like Nolan did
quote:Kershaw would at the bare minimum be borderline. He's already in according to baseball references predictor
They certainly wouldn't be inducted into the hall-of-fame if their careers ended before age 30.
This post was edited on 7/21/16 at 11:19 am
Posted on 7/21/16 at 11:22 am to WestCoastAg
If Kershaw never pitched again he would NOT get into the HOF. Sorry. He is very very good but not ahOF yet.
Posted on 7/21/16 at 11:26 am to dukke v
I think it would be a Koufax type situation. The dude is obviously amazing.
Posted on 7/21/16 at 11:28 am to Jcorye1
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I think it would be a Koufax type situation
I don't know shite about baseball in like 1915, but did Koufax win a World Series?
I think Kershaw would get in if he for some reason never played again and was successful in the postseason and had a ring.
Posted on 7/21/16 at 11:28 am to dukke v
Please point to me all of the 3x Cy young, 4x era champs, pitching triple crown winners with an MVP that have missed out on the HOF. The only way he would miss out is if the writers didn't want him in because of some stupid unwritten rule
This post was edited on 7/21/16 at 11:30 am
Posted on 7/21/16 at 11:32 am to WestCoastAg
Lol okay, that's pretty difficult to rebuttle.
Posted on 7/21/16 at 11:35 am to Vicks Kennel Club
Nolan is the Chuck Norris of baseball players.
Coincidence they both were Texas Rangers?
Coincidence they both were Texas Rangers?
Posted on 7/21/16 at 11:47 am to WestCoastAg
That's much better!
Posted on 7/21/16 at 11:52 am to McCaigBro69
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did Koufax win a World Series?
era of 0.95 in 57 innings pitched.
in 8 games, zero errors in the field.
9.6 K's per 9 innings.
1.74 walks per 9 innings
they won the WS in 1963 and 1965
This post was edited on 7/21/16 at 11:54 am
Posted on 7/21/16 at 12:09 pm to WestCoastAg
Would you vote Johan Santana or Roy halladay into the Hall?
Posted on 7/21/16 at 1:02 pm to Lester Earl
His resume is better than both
Posted on 7/21/16 at 1:58 pm to Jcorye1
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I think it would be a Koufax type situation. The dude is obviously amazing.
That's exactly right. Koufax only had like 5 good years. The first half of his career stunk. Still, he sailed through on the first ballot.
Posted on 7/21/16 at 2:07 pm to mizzoubuckeyeiowa
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I can't think of another QB who had more sorry arse teams than John Elway.
Tony fricking Romo baw
Posted on 7/21/16 at 5:51 pm to McCaigBro69
Nolan was great no doubt about it
Posted on 7/21/16 at 6:00 pm to McCaigBro69
K is a predictive stat. It's basically an out and a a no hitter has equal value of shutout.
Stats guys overrate Ryan. He's behind Carlton, Gibson, Seaver and several others.
Stats guys overrate Ryan. He's behind Carlton, Gibson, Seaver and several others.
Posted on 7/21/16 at 6:16 pm to cheesesteak501
HAHAHAHA Nolan Ryan is like 30 games over 500 in his career.
Wait, you actually use Ws as a measuring device for pitchers???
Posted on 7/22/16 at 3:31 pm to McCaigBro69
Not saying he wasn't a HoF guy but was even the best pitcher of his own era for more than a year or two- I hear that Steve Carlton was a way bigger bad arse from people around for both.
Posted on 7/22/16 at 5:44 pm to The Pretender
Late in the season, Gibson struck out richie Allen and johnny Callison with based loaded, back to back, twice in same game, for what turned out to be the pennant winning margin. 1 game.
Callison and Allen each homered for the 2 - 1 NL all star win. Gibson was the man that year. gibson is top ten pitchers of all time.
Callison and Allen each homered for the 2 - 1 NL all star win. Gibson was the man that year. gibson is top ten pitchers of all time.
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