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re: Will Andrew Luck retire as GOAT?
Posted on 12/15/14 at 8:46 pm to Dr. Shultz
Posted on 12/15/14 at 8:46 pm to Dr. Shultz
Tony Romo also has a higher completion percentage, passer rating and less turnovers.
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Posted on 12/15/14 at 8:46 pm to benhamin5555
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Will Andrew Luck retire as GOAT?
Posted on 12/15/14 at 8:51 pm to TTsTowel
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Tony Romo also has a higher completion percentage, passer rating and less turnovers.
and the best running game in the league to lean on.
Romo is having a more efficient season, sure. Not a better season.
Posted on 12/15/14 at 8:53 pm to Dr. Shultz
Is Jay Cutler having a better season, too? You know, more yards and touchdowns.
Posted on 12/15/14 at 8:54 pm to Dr. Shultz
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But Romo? Come on now?
I know it hurts some of y'all to admit it, or even consider it... But once you quit lying to yourself, you can face the fact that right now, today, Romo is a top 5 QB in the league.
Posted on 12/15/14 at 8:55 pm to Dr. Shultz
Oh shite, now he's just having a more efficient season. But not better. Lol
Posted on 12/15/14 at 8:57 pm to Michael J Cocks
No doubt. He's been very good this season. It's time for people to give him the recognition he deserves. He's a much better quarterback than he gets credit for.
Posted on 12/15/14 at 9:00 pm to TTsTowel
quote:Luck is absolutely an elite QB right now.
He's not in the elite category right now.
As for your Romo/Roethlisberger argument, if I had to win one game right now to make the playoffs, I'm taking Luck and not even thinking about it. Give Romo Luck's offensive line and he's on his way to the hospital by the end of the first quarter. As for Big Ben, he has the some of the best playmakers in the league surrounding him. Also, Murray and Bell shite on Richardson/Herron. It's heroic what Luck is doing with his supporting cast
Posted on 12/15/14 at 9:00 pm to AUCE05
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Did you just put Brees at 1?
Do you see numbers next to them?
Posted on 12/15/14 at 9:01 pm to TTsTowel
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Is Jay Cutler having a better season, too? You know, more yards and touchdowns.
He's been good but he's not being asked to do much which I feel diminishes his season. They've been leaning on Murray all year.
and Jay Cutler only has a couple hundred more yards and has LESS Tds than Romo. Turrible example.
it's not like Luck is barely above him.
He's 1000 yards and 10 TDs above him
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I know it hurts some of y'all to admit it, or even consider it... But once you quit lying to yourself, you can face the fact that right now, today, Romo is a top 5 QB in the league.
So you would take Romo over Brady, Rogers, Peyton, Brees, and Luck right now?
This post was edited on 12/15/14 at 9:05 pm
Posted on 12/15/14 at 9:03 pm to AMM AU9893
Sorry, but Andrew Luck turns the ball over way too much to be considered elite. I'm not saying he's bad by any means, but he's below elite. You can't be second in the NFL in turnovers and be considered elite. That's just not right.
Posted on 12/15/14 at 9:05 pm to TTsTowel
quote:So Favre was never elite?
You can't be second in the NFL in turnovers and be considered elite. That's just not right.
Posted on 12/15/14 at 9:06 pm to Dr. Shultz
Yards should never be used to gauge how good a QB is, YPA is a much better stat to use.
Posted on 12/15/14 at 9:07 pm to TTsTowel
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Sorry, but Andrew Luck turns the ball over way too much to be considered elite. I'm not saying he's bad by any means, but he's below elite. You can't be second in the NFL in turnovers and be considered elite. That's just not right.
Jamaal Charles leads all RBs with 4 fumbles this year.
LeSean McCoy and Demarco Murray are tied for 2nd with 3 fumbles.
Guess they aren't elite either because if you have the most turnovers you can't be elite!
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Yards should never be used to gauge how good a QB is, YPA is a much better stat to use.
No doubt. We shouldn't take what type of offense someone runs into account.
Kirk Cousins = tGOAT
This post was edited on 12/15/14 at 9:09 pm
Posted on 12/15/14 at 9:08 pm to AMM AU9893
It's always something with Romo. He virtually played the last 5 years with the worst defense in the league, no running game and a very sketchy offensive line while still keeping Dallas in playoff contention through the final week of December. But he was underachieving and the reason Dallas shite the bed late in games and or December or whatever other mythical misconception y'all like to throw out there. But now that Luck wins probably the 2nd worst division in football and while being a turnover machine, he's "heroic."
And let's still not give Romo any credit because now he's just blessed with such great talent around him. Pretty much any QB could dominate in that offense. Except his back-up of course.
And let's still not give Romo any credit because now he's just blessed with such great talent around him. Pretty much any QB could dominate in that offense. Except his back-up of course.
Posted on 12/15/14 at 9:09 pm to AMM AU9893
In some years, yes. In other years, no. Being elite varies from year to year, IMO.
For example, Brett Favre was elite in 2009, but not 2008.
For example, Brett Favre was elite in 2009, but not 2008.
Posted on 12/15/14 at 9:09 pm to TTsTowel
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The elite quarterbacks THIS YEAR are Aaron Rodgers, Peyton Manning and Tom Brady. They are alone at the top.
Why no Brees?
Posted on 12/15/14 at 9:10 pm to Michael J Cocks
quote:It's truly amazing.
But now that Luck wins probably the 2nd worst division in football and while being a turnover machine, he's "heroic."
Posted on 12/15/14 at 9:10 pm to benhamin5555
Aaron rodgers will
Posted on 12/15/14 at 9:12 pm to Michael J Cocks
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It's always something with Romo. He virtually played the last 5 years with the worst defense in the league, no running game and a very sketchy offensive line while still keeping Dallas in playoff contention through the final week of December. But he was underachieving and the reason Dallas shite the bed late in games and or December or whatever other mythical misconception y'all like to throw out there. But now that Luck wins probably the 2nd worst division in football and while being a turnover machine, he's "heroic."
So.. by your comparison..
Romo being on a shite team and not making the playoffs is >>>> than Andrew Luck being on a shite team and making the playoffs?
Crazy stuff right there.
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