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Why is Virginia such a shitty offensive team?

Posted on 2/24/24 at 3:49 pm
Posted by The Egg
Houston, TX
Member since Dec 2004
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Posted on 2/24/24 at 3:49 pm
I get it, Bennett values defense more, but damn they play offense practically handicapped.

Today might be their 3rd straight under 50
Posted by TulaneUVA
Member since Jun 2005
25881 posts
Posted on 2/24/24 at 3:55 pm to
He’s really struggled in the NIL era to find the players he’s wanted
Posted by S
RIP Wayde
Member since Jan 2007
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Posted on 2/24/24 at 3:58 pm to
We all love hard nosed grind it out basketball a la John Chaney’s Temple or some of those 2000s Xavier squads but the Bennett family takes it to another level.
Posted by Crowknowsbest
Member since May 2012
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Posted on 2/24/24 at 4:09 pm to
They just aren’t talented. They win with culture and effort, but that only goes so far.

The teams a few years ago with Brogdon, Guy, Hunter, Jerome, etc could score, but just played a slower pace. The last few teams at UVA just can’t score, slow or fast.
This post was edited on 2/24/24 at 4:09 pm
Posted by RandySavage
Member since May 2012
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Posted on 2/24/24 at 4:16 pm to
Karma for that title they stole from Auburn.
Posted by Dire Wolf
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Posted on 2/24/24 at 4:17 pm to
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We all love hard nosed grind it out basketball a la John Chaney’s Temple or some of those 2000s Xavier squads but the Bennett family takes it to another level.


I prefer the Houston brand of grinding basketball to the Wisconsin run the shot clock out offense

Posted by dukke v
PLUTO
Member since Jul 2006
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Posted on 2/24/24 at 4:25 pm to
A very boring tesm to watch.
Posted by TulaneUVA
Member since Jun 2005
25881 posts
Posted on 2/24/24 at 4:42 pm to
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Karma for that title they stole from Auburn.


Dude, let it go
Posted by xenythx
Member since Dec 2007
32417 posts
Posted on 2/24/24 at 4:54 pm to
It’s partially intentional.

Out of 362 teams, they are dead last in pace/possessions per game.

It’s not pretty, but this strategy is part of the reason they won their most recent title. Probably also why they were the first 1-seed to lose to a 16-seed. But they take that tradeoff any day.
Posted by RandySavage
Member since May 2012
30819 posts
Posted on 2/24/24 at 5:10 pm to
I mean we literally had a natty stolen from us due to incompetence, that's tough.
Posted by TulaneUVA
Member since Jun 2005
25881 posts
Posted on 2/24/24 at 5:27 pm to
It’s 100% intentional. UVA is saying “we can make better, high percentage plays with the limited possessions per game” and “defense travels” philosophy.

But you gotta be able to execute offensively and have some dogs to do it.
Posted by GentleJackJones
Member since Mar 2019
4144 posts
Posted on 2/24/24 at 5:33 pm to
They are good, but they’re a tough watch as a casual fan. They remind me of those old Wisconsin or Gene Keady Purdue teams.
Posted by Jrv2damac
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Member since Mar 2004
64986 posts
Posted on 2/24/24 at 5:39 pm to
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Karma for that title they stole from Auburn.


They’re still better off than Auburn.

You’re probably also never gonna go to the final 4 again.


This post was edited on 2/24/24 at 5:40 pm
Posted by StroKat
Houston, TX
Member since Sep 2018
415 posts
Posted on 2/24/24 at 5:45 pm to
UVA has a title. LSU not so much.
Posted by RB10
Member since Nov 2010
43791 posts
Posted on 2/24/24 at 10:48 pm to
I’m just now getting into basketball, and this shite is hilarious to me.

Like UCLA right now, they have 1 FG and 3 points in the 2nd half, which is more than halfway over.
Posted by BZ504
Texas
Member since Oct 2005
9416 posts
Posted on 2/24/24 at 10:56 pm to
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UVA has a title. LSU not so much


How about football? UVA is trash
Posted by BennyAndTheInkJets
Middle of a layover
Member since Nov 2010
5593 posts
Posted on 2/24/24 at 11:51 pm to
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But you gotta be able to execute offensively and have some dogs to do it.

This is the difference with UVA this year.

During their title run and surrounding years they were actually a very good offensive team, they just limited possessions. Now they limit possessions and are a bad offensive team because nobody can score.
Posted by 32footsteps
Member since Oct 2017
270 posts
Posted on 2/25/24 at 12:30 am to
The key stat to look at are points per possession. I have no idea where UVA is at this year but some of those Dick Bennett coached Wisconsin teams were really good at points per possession. Bo Ryan’s teams were phenomenal at it but they were branded as “boring.” Hell, I’d rather win a boring game than lose an exciting game.

Funny thing is that when Dick Bennett was a DIII coach at Wisconsin-Stevens Point his teams scored points like crazy averaging in the 90’s running the same stuff and they still valued defense. Their points per possession were on par with the good Bennett Wisconsin teams and his son’s UVA and Wazzu teams.
Posted by hoopsgalore
Chicago, IL
Member since Nov 2013
8636 posts
Posted on 2/25/24 at 4:41 am to
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Bo Ryan’s teams were phenomenal at it but they were branded as “boring.”


2014-15 Wisconsin still has the highest AdjO KenPom has ever recorded (it's not very close) and scored 1.19 points/possession with one of the 5-6 slowest tempos in the country. Insanely difficult to beat a team like that.
Posted by The Egg
Houston, TX
Member since Dec 2004
79115 posts
Posted on 3/19/24 at 9:11 pm to
Me watching this game

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