re: Why is there a difference in reaction to sports brawls?

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The funniest was "it's ok for the hockey players to fight because it's their "culture". Well after the game, the BBall players pretty much said it was their "culture" to fight

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Hockey's culture. Not their nature outside the sport.

It is not a basketball culture to full on fight and they are speaking more of a hood type of culture.. That is trashy.

I hear ya.. what kind of double standard are we.. but it is what it is.. It is different tho. I really rather not see college students representing a university act that way. Just like in college football when Blount punched they Boise st player and went crazy. The media was not too kind to him either.

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Why tap dance around the issue. It's racial. Black people fighting wildly scares white America.

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True. Take the NBA for instance, if they get in a lil shoving match people get outraged, say shite like what about the kids in the stands, etc.

The baseball brawl between the Cards and Reds in 2010 was much worse than any NBA brawl in recent years. Hell you had a Reds player kicking with cleats on causing injury to a Cards player making him go on the DL for the rest of the season. He was also kicking Carpenter in the back. Nobody was outraged, nobody called them thugs, animals, savages. Let NBA players shove each other and benches clear you'll hear shite like Animals, savages, thugs, etc.

We can go to college football, the Clemson/South Carolina fight a few years ago was worse than that Xavier/Cincy shite, I believe a cop even got hit. That was an all out brawl. Not much outrage. Southern vs UAPB was a brawl, not much outrage or name calling of the players. Let basketball players brawl then the name calling starts.

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We can go to college football, the Clemson/South Carolina fight a few years ago was worse than that Xavier/Cincy shite, I believe a cop even got hit. That was an all out brawl

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That's perhaps the worst sports brawl I've ever seen. I'd also point out that if it were racial -- why no outrage? Football is also predominantly black, as were those two teams.

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I'd also point out that if it were racial -- why no outrage?

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But there must have been outrage or it wouldn't support the OPs agenda.

I don't care the sport. Stomping and kicking people who are on the ground won't be supported by me.

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But there's been plenty of baseball brawls that also get people worked up for a day or two and are promptly forgot about. The UC/XU brawl touched a nerve not because it involved black people, but because it was especially violent.

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I agree with most of your commentary about hockey fights being more organized and within the rules (than people who don't watch the sport appreciate).

But regarding the basketball fight I think it has a couple additional complicating issues. There was not only the ugliness of the fight between two guys but also a disorganized fracas where people who didn't intend to be involved could have hurt. In a hockey fight there are generally a couple refs waiting to break it up as soon as one guy has gotten the better of the other one (and a significant glass barrier between the fans and players fighting).

On top of that I don't think people can ignore the comments of the involved players. If you don't want to be perceived as a thug or gangster then don't refer to yourself as that and don't use a phrase like "zipping someone up" (which I didn't realize is apparently slang for putting them into a body bag)

Certainly racial perceptions do color how we react to violence but the comparisons between most hockey fights and the basketball fight from the other night are really not roughly equivalent.

RE: baseball brawls. I could see more of a comparison between the basketball fight from the other night and say the brawl from the 2010 season involving the Cardinals if after the fight the players involved used their press conference as an opportunity to declare themselves gangsters and that they would put the next guy to disrespect them into a body bag.

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That's perhaps the worst sports brawl I've ever seen. I'd also point out that if it were racial -- why no outrage? Football is also predominantly black, as were those two teams.

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Baloo, you are a really sensible poster. Question, do you really think that if the NBA started having NHL style fights, where guys would square off man to man, for about 45 seconds and then stop if someone drops, it would be ok with the general public. Roughly 20-30 fights in a season? You really think that Joe six pack would say this is just like hockey so it's ok or would he drop "savages", "THUGS" and other code words?

frick WRONG THREAD

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Why tap dance around the issue. It's racial. Black people fighting wildly scares white America.

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Ahh frick. This is the shite that keeps racism in the forefront of social issues.

I watch alot of sports, and I can remember two basketball brawls. There have been tons of baseball brawls and hockey brawls.

It has NOTHING to do with race. Rather, it has everything to do with the sport and the rarity of the event. A hockey fight is not going to make the news because they are everyday occurrences.

You can probably list two basketball fights - this one and the Pacers fight. Both deserved the reaction that they got. GTFO with this stupid racial bullshite.

What would the reaction be to a brawl in a college soccer match? What about a football game? A brawl will get criticism if it is against the grain in the sport, especially if it involves a cheap shot.