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re: Why is there a difference in reaction to sports brawls?

Posted on 12/12/11 at 10:39 am to
Posted by Ryno_Kill
Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 12/12/11 at 10:39 am to
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I think we have a winner and there's absolutely nothing nobody can say to refute what you said due to the drastic difference in the reaction to the fighting.


Well it was obvious what you where trolling for when you started this thread.
Posted by UFownstSECsince1950
Member since Dec 2009
32814 posts
Posted on 12/12/11 at 10:40 am to
No, I think it has to do with the sucker punching and cheap shots. You don't really see that in hockey where it's 1-on-1 standing up. There's no kicking of downed opponents, no thuggery.
Posted by CFBFAN1121
Abbottabad, Pakistan
Member since Sep 2006
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Posted on 12/12/11 at 10:42 am to
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No, I think it has to do with the sucker punching and cheap shots. You don't really see that in hockey where it's 1-on-1 standing up. There's no kicking of downed opponents, no thugger


So you're saying had the Xavier, Cincy players went toe to toe beating each other faces in like the hockey players, no one would be mad right now, right?

Posted by SprintFun
Columbus, OH
Member since Dec 2007
45841 posts
Posted on 12/12/11 at 10:43 am to
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I think we have a winner and there's absolutely nothing nobody can say to refute what you said due to the drastic difference in the reaction to the fighting.



There's like 6 black people in the NHL, I'm sure they've fought at some point.

There are lots of minorities in Baseball who brawl and its socially acceptable.
Posted by LSUSOBEAST1
Member since Aug 2008
28621 posts
Posted on 12/12/11 at 10:47 am to
quote:

I think we have a winner and there's absolutely nothing nobody can say to refute what you said due to the drastic difference in the reaction to the fighting.



Why didn't you just say this in your OP? It was obvious you were waiting for this answer.
Posted by SouljaBreauxTellEm
Mizz
Member since Aug 2009
29343 posts
Posted on 12/12/11 at 10:48 am to
college students shouldn't be fighting.

grown men fighting in baseball or hockey is just the culture given certain circumstances and is to be expected.. you don't expect brawls in college athletics.
Posted by Ryno_Kill
Member since Jan 2004
2408 posts
Posted on 12/12/11 at 10:48 am to
I think Sheffield was the main guy in the brawl SFP was talking about.
Posted by SprintFun
Columbus, OH
Member since Dec 2007
45841 posts
Posted on 12/12/11 at 10:49 am to
quote:

college students shouldn't be fighting.

grown men fighting in baseball or hockey is just the culture given certain circumstances and is to be expected.. you don't expect brawls in college athletics.


This is also true.

It's illegal to fight in college hockey too, for example. Fighting in college hockey = suspension, just like all the other NCAA sports.
Posted by CFBFAN1121
Abbottabad, Pakistan
Member since Sep 2006
4174 posts
Posted on 12/12/11 at 10:53 am to
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Why didn't you just say this in your OP? It was obvious you were waiting for this answer.

Just wanted to see how many posters would deny the obvious. I also wanted to see how posters will come up for reasons why there's a difference in the reaction to the fights.

The funniest was "it's ok for the hockey players to fight because it's their "culture". Well after the game, the BBall players pretty much said it was their "culture" to fight. But that wasn't valid excuse for them to fight.

Look, i think it's horrible for ANY fighting. Sports or on the streets. Just think it's funny how there's such a DRASTIC difference in reaction to when certain sports fight only to have those people rationalize why it's ok for some people to fight but not others.
Posted by UFownstSECsince1950
Member since Dec 2009
32814 posts
Posted on 12/12/11 at 10:55 am to
No, I'm saying you're doing a piss poor job of trolling. Regroup, rethink your strategy, and come back with better material next time.

And this guy says frick your racial trolling bullshite "double standards"


Posted by LSUSOBEAST1
Member since Aug 2008
28621 posts
Posted on 12/12/11 at 10:56 am to
quote:

The funniest was "it's ok for the hockey players to fight because it's their "culture". Well after the game, the BBall players pretty much said it was their "culture" to fight. But that wasn't valid excuse for them to fight.



You are a terrible fricking poster if you are serious about this.
Posted by SprintFun
Columbus, OH
Member since Dec 2007
45841 posts
Posted on 12/12/11 at 11:07 am to
quote:

The funniest was "it's ok for the hockey players to fight because it's their "culture". Well after the game, the BBall players pretty much said it was their "culture" to fight. But that wasn't valid excuse for them to fight.


The funniest is you confusing "culture" in the sense I used it for the "culture" of the athletes.
Posted by StrongSafety
Member since Sep 2004
18000 posts
Posted on 12/12/11 at 11:09 am to
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Well the black dudes on Cinci did sucker punch the white dude from Xavier.....then kicked him when he was down


Nb4AfreauxsaysXavierfromLouisiana


Can't say I'm surprised by a cinci ball squad though

As my buddy said, "they got really hood reall quick"
Posted by StrongSafety
Member since Sep 2004
18000 posts
Posted on 12/12/11 at 11:13 am to
They shouldn't be but they shouldn't get charges pressed against them. That's just overboard if you ask me and that may have to do with the perceptions/prejudices/pre-conceived notions
Posted by Them
Metry
Member since Nov 2008
11373 posts
Posted on 12/12/11 at 12:07 pm to
quote:

The funniest was "it's ok for the hockey players to fight because it's their "culture". Well after the game, the BBall players pretty much said it was their "culture" to fight. But that wasn't valid excuse for them to fight.

Look, i think it's horrible for ANY fighting. Sports or on the streets. Just think it's funny how there's such a DRASTIC difference in reaction to when certain sports fight only to have those people rationalize why it's ok for some people to fight but not others
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Posted by ForeLSU
The Corner of Sanity and Madness
Member since Sep 2003
41525 posts
Posted on 12/12/11 at 12:31 pm to
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Just two nights ago, I saw a fight during a hockey game on SportsCenter. The fans were cheering the fight on, the anchors on SC were in laugh mode. The fight eventually ended when one player finally hit the ice with a bloody face....no outrage from the public.


there's no outrage because it's part of the sport, a sport that most folks don't give a shite about. If they want to fight, fine by me. Fans that care about college basketball don't want fighting to be part of the sport and want major penalties when fights occur.
Posted by Jumbeauxlaya
LSU
Member since Jan 2011
18083 posts
Posted on 12/12/11 at 12:34 pm to
quote:

The culture of hockey says its ok to scrap.

The culture of basketball says its not ok to scrap.

You can't tell the difference?



He's asking why the culture's are different numbnuts.
Posted by Cam71090
Member since Mar 2010
1486 posts
Posted on 12/12/11 at 12:45 pm to
It comes down to the amount of pride in fighting.

You have Blount and Yancy Gates sucker punching people who are not trying to fight then stomping on them. Or you hockey players who look at each other and say "you and me are about to fight, just you and me, no one else, when you hit the ice we're done. Do you agree? Ok lets fight."

Those first two guys are cowards, punks and thugs. And it has nothing to do with race.

Posted by Baloo
Formerly MDGeaux
Member since Sep 2003
49645 posts
Posted on 12/12/11 at 12:51 pm to
Look at the difference in the fights. A hockey fight is two guys and when one guy goes down, it's over. No one leaves the bench, because if they do, it's an automatic suspension.

In the UC-XU game, it was a bench clearing brawl in which one of the guys gets sucker punched. Then, while he's on the ground, someone kicks him. The fight was wholly out of control.

Even beyond "it's the rules and part of the game", its the difference in the fights themselves.
Posted by ForeLSU
The Corner of Sanity and Madness
Member since Sep 2003
41525 posts
Posted on 12/12/11 at 12:52 pm to
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You have Blount and Yancy Gates sucker punching people who are not trying to fight then stomping on them. Or you hockey players who look at each other and say "you and me are about to fight, just you and me, no one else, when you hit the ice we're done. Do you agree? Ok lets fight."


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