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Why is there a difference in reaction to sports brawls?

Posted on 12/12/11 at 10:09 am
Posted by CFBFAN1121
Abbottabad, Pakistan
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Posted on 12/12/11 at 10:09 am
Anyone ever notice how when some sports have a brawl during the game, the reaction to the brawls are blatantly different depending on the sport?

I've been hearing and reading about the outrage about the fight between the Cincy and Xavier players. Pat Forde wrote a scathing article about how the teams disgraced their city.

Just two nights ago, I saw a fight during a hockey game on SportsCenter. The fans were cheering the fight on, the anchors on SC were in laugh mode. The fight eventually ended when one player finally hit the ice with a bloody face....no outrage from the public.

I see baseball brawls all the time, they're always greeted with laughter on the evening news. Nobody is outraged, nobody is called thugs, and no articles are written on how the players were a disgrace to the city.

This is just weird to me

Posted by LSUSOBEAST1
Member since Aug 2008
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Posted on 12/12/11 at 10:11 am to
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Just two nights ago, I saw a fight during a hockey game on SportsCenter. The fans were cheering the fight on, the anchors on SC were in laugh mode. The fight eventually ended when one player finally hit the ice with a bloody face....no outrage from the public.



If you don't understand this, then there is no hope for you as a sports fan.

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I see baseball brawls all the time, they're always greeted with laughter on the evening news. Nobody is outraged, nobody is called thugs, and no articles are written on how the players were a disgrace to the city.



Baseball "fights" are usually just pushing and shoving. No real punches or kicks landed. Not to mention the team doesn't come out after the game and say how gangster they are.
Posted by CFBFAN1121
Abbottabad, Pakistan
Member since Sep 2006
4174 posts
Posted on 12/12/11 at 10:19 am to
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If you don't understand this, then there is no hope for you as a sports fan.



Well help me understand almighty sports fan on why in hockey, it's perfectly ok for players to punch each other faces in but when the same exact thing happens in CBB , it's not ok.

What was the difference between the fight in hockey and the fight in the Cincy, Xavier game?

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Baseball "fights" are usually just pushing and shoving. No real punches or kicks landed. Not to mention the team doesn't come out after the game and say how gangster they are.


Ha, I've seen all out brawls in baseball, punches thrown just like the Xavier, Cincy game. Absolutely no outrage and when it's reported on the news the anchors are always laughing about it.

Posted by filmmaker45
Member since Mar 2008
14554 posts
Posted on 12/12/11 at 10:21 am to
Fighting in hockey is one of the reasons I hate the sport, but it is accepted.


I think fights are funny. I love seeing them on TV. Never been outraged y a fight. Of course neither of those teams are my teams.
Posted by SprintFun
Columbus, OH
Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 12/12/11 at 10:21 am to
The culture of hockey says its ok to scrap.

The culture of basketball says its not ok to scrap.

You can't tell the difference?
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 12/12/11 at 10:22 am to
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Ha, I've seen all out brawls in baseball

baseball had a brawl in the stands with fans before the one in the nba with artest, but it didn't get 1/2 the national pub
Posted by LSUSOBEAST1
Member since Aug 2008
28621 posts
Posted on 12/12/11 at 10:22 am to
quote:

Well help me understand almighty sports fan on why in hockey, it's perfectly ok for players to punch each other faces in but when the same exact thing happens in CBB , it's not ok.



Because fighting is accepted in hockey. It's part of the game.
Posted by CFBFAN1121
Abbottabad, Pakistan
Member since Sep 2006
4174 posts
Posted on 12/12/11 at 10:26 am to
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The culture of hockey says its ok to scrap.

The culture of basketball says its not ok to scrap.

You can't tell the difference?


Umm, yea. I know there's a difference, read my thread title. "Why is there a difference in reaction to sports brawls"

My question is why is it perfectly acceptable for hockey, baseball players to have fights with zero outrage.

There are people calling for the players to be suspended for the rest of the year, those same people have no problem with other sports having brawls.
Posted by LSUSOBEAST1
Member since Aug 2008
28621 posts
Posted on 12/12/11 at 10:27 am to
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My question is why is it perfectly acceptable for hockey, baseball players to have fights with zero outrage.


He answered it. Culture.
Posted by TH03
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Member since Dec 2008
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Posted on 12/12/11 at 10:28 am to
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Because fighting is accepted in hockey. It's part of the game.


This. they can fight up until someone goes down on the ice. It's not an "accepted" part of any other sport. Plus it's harder to get a huge hit on someone while standing/slipping on ice. If you can get a strong base on a court/field and land a big punch, you'd see people getting knocked the frick out all the time.
Posted by TH03
Mogadishu
Member since Dec 2008
172004 posts
Posted on 12/12/11 at 10:29 am to
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There are people calling for the players to be suspended for the rest of the year, those same people have no problem with other sports having brawls


Because one of the players came out and said they were gangsters after the game.
Posted by SprintFun
Columbus, OH
Member since Dec 2007
45841 posts
Posted on 12/12/11 at 10:30 am to
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Umm, yea. I know there's a difference, read my thread title. "Why is there a difference in reaction to sports brawls"



Fighting is part of the game in hockey.

Are you going to ask why you can punch in MMA? I didn't set up the structure of the game, I don't know why but you can fight in hockey and its acceptable.
Posted by UFownstSECsince1950
Member since Dec 2009
32814 posts
Posted on 12/12/11 at 10:31 am to
Why is it ok for managers to get up in the umps' face....yell, spit, and scream? If you even look at a ref wrong in the nba you'll get T'ed up
Posted by UFownstSECsince1950
Member since Dec 2009
32814 posts
Posted on 12/12/11 at 10:32 am to
And I blame it on Rudy T's glass jaw for creating this double standard





I kid
Posted by CFBFAN1121
Abbottabad, Pakistan
Member since Sep 2006
4174 posts
Posted on 12/12/11 at 10:33 am to
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Fighting is part of the game in hockey


I'm talking about the reaction/outrage from the public regarding the fighting.

Do you not think it's hypocritical for the public to cheer fighting in one sport but jeer it in another sport? Fighting is fighting, if you hate people fighting in one sport how can you cheer it in another sport?

Posted by StrongSafety
Member since Sep 2004
18000 posts
Posted on 12/12/11 at 10:33 am to
Well when blacks fight amongst each other in sports, it's just the thug culture of hip hop and everything wrong with it.

When whites do fight in sports, it's just in the name of the game.

That's really want it broils down. Hate to race bait.

INB4racewars&riots
Posted by UFownstSECsince1950
Member since Dec 2009
32814 posts
Posted on 12/12/11 at 10:36 am to
Well the black dudes on Cinci did sucker punch the white dude from Xavier.....then kicked him when he was down


Nb4AfreauxsaysXavierfromLouisiana
Posted by Ryno_Kill
Member since Jan 2004
2408 posts
Posted on 12/12/11 at 10:36 am to
Why aren't you calling out the Cinci/Xavier players for calling themselves thugs/gangters or is thug/gangster the new Nword?
Posted by pvilleguru
Member since Jun 2009
60453 posts
Posted on 12/12/11 at 10:36 am to
There's 2 different types of fighting in hockey. 1 is staged fights. I hate those. They are guys just fighting for the heck of it. The other type is in order to protect players. I feel like this type of fighting is needed. Hockey players move much faster than in any other sport and can hurt other players more easily. Without fighting, more players would be hurt. A 4minute penalty for hitting someone in the face with a stick isn't going to stop it from happening. Knowing that you will have fight someone after you do it does prevent it from happening more often.
Posted by CFBFAN1121
Abbottabad, Pakistan
Member since Sep 2006
4174 posts
Posted on 12/12/11 at 10:36 am to
quote:

Well when blacks fight amongst each other in sports, it's just the thug culture of hip hop and everything wrong with it.

When whites do fight in sports, it's just in the name of the gam


I think we have a winner and there's absolutely nothing nobody can say to refute what you said due to the drastic difference in the reaction to the fighting.
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