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Why hasn't anyone been able to create a successful gap league for highschoolers?

Posted on 11/20/18 at 4:36 pm
Posted by al_cajun
Baton Rouge
Member since Mar 2017
2442 posts
Posted on 11/20/18 at 4:36 pm
It seems like if you had some money you could create a successful league. If Vince McMahon was smart he would just cut out the NCAA by recruiting high school kids to play for the XFL and pay much less than the NFL does when drafting college players. Is this a opportunity for the taking or will the path for pro sports always be through the NCAA?
This post was edited on 11/20/18 at 6:48 pm
Posted by Mingo Was His NameO
Brooklyn
Member since Mar 2016
25455 posts
Posted on 11/20/18 at 4:37 pm to
Money and brand recognition. This isn't complicated
Posted by al_cajun
Baton Rouge
Member since Mar 2017
2442 posts
Posted on 11/20/18 at 4:37 pm to
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Money and brand recognition. This isn't complicated

That's why I think Vince could pull it off, he has the money and is a big enough figure to where he might be able to pull it off. If he went this route.
This post was edited on 11/20/18 at 4:38 pm
Posted by Korin
Member since Jan 2014
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Posted on 11/20/18 at 4:42 pm to
Posted by SammyTiger
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2009
66463 posts
Posted on 11/20/18 at 5:00 pm to
People tend to cheer for their teams not players. People love their schools. That’s already established. Look at college basketball. Most players aren’t going to make the NBA yet school have huge followins no matter who puts in the jersey. People care more about winning and yes star power helps, but few people become fans of teams because of where recruits go.

I dont see minor league football ever drawing anything more than minor league baseball.

Also I dint Know how a league survives with that kind of turnover that a minor league XFL would have.

Plus the NFL has to prefer hundreds of minor league teams to as 30 team league.
This post was edited on 11/20/18 at 5:02 pm
Posted by NOLALGD
Member since May 2014
2231 posts
Posted on 11/20/18 at 5:03 pm to
NFL isn't the NBA, even if it doesn't seems like it 99%
of college football players expect to be at a school for 4-5 years and earn a degree.
Posted by Bjorn Cyborg
Member since Sep 2016
26748 posts
Posted on 11/20/18 at 5:15 pm to
College sports are popular because of the school, not the players.

If basketball players could go straight to the NBA, college basketball would still be extremely popular.

Very few people care about minor league sports.
Posted by slackster
Houston
Member since Mar 2009
84785 posts
Posted on 11/20/18 at 5:22 pm to
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Why hasn't anyone been able to create a successful gap league for highschoolers?


Well minor league baseball is a thing.
Posted by Jcorye1
Tom Brady = GoAT
Member since Dec 2007
71385 posts
Posted on 11/20/18 at 5:33 pm to
Europe's model would work better for the pure athletes, but I am extremely ignorant of the education part of it.
Posted by TexasTiger08
Member since Oct 2006
25522 posts
Posted on 11/20/18 at 5:36 pm to
Minor league baseball has done this, and is pretty damn popular. Certain markets thrive. I’d say that many more minor league markets thrive than do college baseball towns.
Posted by crazy4lsu
Member since May 2005
36311 posts
Posted on 11/20/18 at 5:36 pm to
Mostly history. The minor league system of baseball often involves older, regional leagues. Due to rather late codification, basketball and football did not have the time to develop these regional leagues. Football especially became a popular sport on college campuses, and now we have a large minor league system that taxpayers pay for.
Posted by Morty
Member since Feb 2018
2252 posts
Posted on 11/20/18 at 5:59 pm to
In between two extremes of the market appealing to neither side. Like a barbell
Posted by Morty
Member since Feb 2018
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Posted on 11/20/18 at 6:36 pm to
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This post was edited on 11/20/18 at 6:38 pm
Posted by SeeeeK
some where
Member since Sep 2012
28050 posts
Posted on 11/20/18 at 6:40 pm to
He'd have trouble being able to match the offers Auburn, tOSU,Bama,etc offer to HS kids.
Posted by Rep520
Member since Mar 2018
10413 posts
Posted on 11/20/18 at 7:14 pm to
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College sports are popular because of the school, not the players. 


This. If you just want to watch the best players, you watch the NBA or NFL.

College is a different experience because fans have a personal stake in a way they never do with the pros. I went to Arizona, so I root for Arizona. I root for pro teams, but it's different.
Posted by chalmetteowl
Chalmette
Member since Jan 2008
47564 posts
Posted on 11/20/18 at 11:47 pm to
quote:

I’d say that many more minor league markets thrive than do college baseball towns.
maybe up north... I understand the SEC West skews our view of college baseball
Posted by Wayne Campbell
Aurora, IL
Member since Oct 2011
6371 posts
Posted on 11/21/18 at 7:31 am to
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Minor league baseball has done this, and is pretty damn popular.


Minor league baseball has also been around for 150 years and was a thing before college baseball.

quote:

Certain markets thrive.


Very few. And minor league teams are subsidized by their major league affiliates. The players and coaches are paid by the major league clubs so there is substantially less overhead.

There's also the issue of infrastructure. There are so many moving parts involved that making a straight comparison between minor league baseball and a startup minor football league is apples to cannonballs.
Posted by Bjorn Cyborg
Member since Sep 2016
26748 posts
Posted on 11/21/18 at 7:59 am to
For most people, sports fandom is about a connection and a loyalty, not just about the talent level.

If LSU could win the national championship with a team of walk-ons, the stands would be full and the fans would be excited.

People care about the players as a whole, but college fans are not invested in individual players for the most part.
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