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re: Why does it seem there are almost no-hitters almost every day now?
Posted on 6/14/12 at 11:34 am to The Mick
Posted on 6/14/12 at 11:34 am to The Mick
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foul ball error makes sense imo
Ya, it doesn't negate the perfect game by the pitcher, since he can still get the guy out and still have 27 up, 27 down.
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Posted on 6/14/12 at 11:35 am to Mahootney
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Take away the steroids, and all of the homeruns from the past era are now fly-ball outs.
I wouldn't go that far, but ya, I am sure a few that made it just over the fence would have been outs.
Posted on 6/14/12 at 11:35 am to Mahootney
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Take away the steroids, and all of the homeruns from the past era are now fly-ball outs.
Wow. That's a pretty bold assertion.
Posted on 6/14/12 at 11:36 am to Teddy Ruxpin
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Ya, it doesn't negate the perfect game by the pitcher, since he can still get the guy out and still have 27 up, 27 down.
Perfect game = zero baserunners
Posted on 6/14/12 at 11:47 am to TigersSEC2010
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almost no-hitters almost every day now?
They have some one hitters, but there have been a lot of no hitters too.
Posted on 6/14/12 at 12:10 pm to RedHawk
year of the pitcher
FIRE JAVI
FIRE JAVI
Posted on 6/14/12 at 12:10 pm to TigersSEC2010
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Why are these such frequent occurrences now? Do the batters really suck that badly now or are pitchers really that good?
iPads are helping pitchers. They have apps that let them know what pitch to throw and when to throw it in the count versus any hitter. With one tap they can see what pitch to throw in what situation based on the hitters past performance. It will tell them stuff like with a 2-2 count a certain player only hits .115 on sliders low and away thrown by lefties. shite like that makes it A LOT easier to pitch in MLB. They have had this info for a long time but it is super easy to use and a pitcher can always have their iPad with them.
Posted on 6/14/12 at 12:11 pm to barry
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8 games have been spoiled by an error, most recently the Jonathan Sanchez in 2009
The most amazing thing about that game was that Sanchez did not walk anyone.
Posted on 6/14/12 at 12:15 pm to LesAverman
I think we are going through a cycle in which pitching is more dominant--maybe it will change in a few years, but the old cliche is that good pitching always tops good hitting.
Posted on 6/14/12 at 12:33 pm to lsu480
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shite like that makes it A LOT easier to pitch in MLB. They have had this info for a long time but it is super easy to use and a pitcher can always have their iPad with them.
I have never seen a pitcher on the mound with an iPad
Posted on 6/14/12 at 12:47 pm to WITNESS23
The info on these games is more available. Once you get into the 4th-5th networks are all over them. That's why there seems to be a lot more. The fact that 4 have happened this year is a fluke, IMO. It isn't juice or whatever, as people have cheated throughout. We're just more aware now.
Posted on 6/14/12 at 12:50 pm to sms151t
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. It isn't juice or whatever, as people have cheated throughout.
It was juice, but i think its just a piece of the puzzle. Steroids had a definite effect.
Posted on 6/14/12 at 12:53 pm to TigersSEC2010
They had an article a few months ago that showed percentage of no-hitters was only 2-5% higher than years ago. Mainly you have more teams, more games, so the chances of it happening have increased. Along with regulations that have changed in favor of the pitcher which helps the chances of no hitters.
Posted on 6/14/12 at 12:57 pm to barry
So what's the excuse for guys taking amphetamine laced coffee? The ability to recover quicker is why you take 'juice".
Posted on 6/14/12 at 1:35 pm to lsu xman
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no more juice.
beat me to it
Posted on 6/14/12 at 2:22 pm to barry
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Players have changed their approach at the plate. Striking out isn't as big a deal anymore as long as you are hitting bombs. Without steroids though this can lead to some weaker numbers and if a pitcher isn't walking anyone then that doesn't help. Also there are just a lot of talented pitchers right now.
This. Batters stopped caring about striking out in PED era bc chance for HRs were higher. PEDs are no longer a big factor in todays game; however, batters approach haven't changed back to emphasis on putting ball in play w/ 2 strikes.
This post was edited on 6/14/12 at 2:24 pm
Posted on 6/14/12 at 2:56 pm to STEVED00
More teams mean watered down lineups for some guys. That being said, you can have watered down rosters, but a dominant pitcher is still going to influence a game all by himself.
Steroids are simply one piece. That won't be the difference between a slow roller getting through the infield though or a pop-up dropping in front of an outfielder.
I used the Coors Field thin air argument. Does the thin air create an atmosphere where fly balls are more likely to leave the yard? Yes.
Doesn't that mean the thin air will make a bloop single into a fly ball out?
Steroids are simply one piece. That won't be the difference between a slow roller getting through the infield though or a pop-up dropping in front of an outfielder.
I used the Coors Field thin air argument. Does the thin air create an atmosphere where fly balls are more likely to leave the yard? Yes.
Doesn't that mean the thin air will make a bloop single into a fly ball out?
Posted on 6/14/12 at 3:00 pm to STEVED00
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No fewer than 14 no-hitters have been thrown since the beginning of the 2010 season, including Roy Halladay’s Division Series effort, just the second in postseason history. To find a three-year stretch with more no-hitters, you’d have to go back to 1990-1992, when 15 were thrown — seven in 1990 and 1991, plus one in 1992.
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This one is almost too obvious, but with five rounds of expansion since 1960 (the first one spread over two years), and a lengthening of the schedule from 154 to 162 games, the major league slate contains nearly twice as many games as it once did. When the AL and NL each contained eight teams playing 154 games, from the dawn of the Modern Era in 1901 through 1960, a full season’s schedule consisted of 1,232 games, or 2,464 opportunities for no-hitters. With 30 teams playing 162 games, a full slate is now 2,430 games, meaning 4,860 opportunities for no-hitters — a 97 percent increase over the pre-expansion era.[/quote]
[quote]the game experienced its most sustained swell of offense since the 1930s from 1993-2009. Scoring levels were at or above 4.59 runs per team per game in every season, and home run rates were above 1.0 per game. Since 2010, scoring is down slightly, though this year’s 4.30 runs per game is actually 0.02 above last year’s mark, which was the lowest since 1992 (4.12). Meanwhile, this year’s 0.99 home runs per game is slightly higher than last year’s 0.94, which was the lowest since 1993 (0.89).
While power levels are still higher than they were in the pre-1993 era, the major league batting average is lower than it’s been in four decades, after going as high as .271 in 1999, and reaching .270 three times from 1994-2000. This year, batters are hitting .253, the lowest mark since 1972, when it was .244
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This year, pitchers are striking out batters at a rate of 7.50 per nine innings. That’s far and away a record, beating the 7.13 mark reached in each of the past two seasons. Strikeouts have been increasing steadily since 1981, when they were at 4.75 per nine innings; they haven’t fallen below 5.00 per nine since then, haven’t dipped below 6.00 since 1994 and have stayed above 6.40 in every year since 1996 save for 2005, when they slipped to 6.38 in 2005. Strikeout rates increased in every single year since then.
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While higher strikeout rates mean fewer balls in play, teams have recently been squelching slightly more balls that are put in play and it’s that combination that is responsible for lower batting averages. This year, the majors’ defensive efficiency rate, which measures how often teams convert batted balls into outs, is at .709. That mark isn’t particularly special in and of itself; it was .709 last year, and ranged between .707 and .709 four times since 2003, when it was at .711. That was the highest mark since 1992, but in the 1970s and 1980s, it often exceeded .720, and went as high as .736 back in 1968, the year of the pitcher. When you combine the recent localized high with the increased number of strikeout rates, hits are suddenly more scarce.
Examining No-Hitters
Posted on 6/14/12 at 3:40 pm to TigersSEC2010
The game has so many good pitchers now. They spent years trying to keep up with all of the steroid hitters, working on their game, and they're that much better now that steroids are strictly outlawed.
Posted on 6/14/12 at 5:49 pm to barry
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Players have changed their approach at the plate. Striking out isn't as big a deal anymore as long as you are hitting bombs. Without steroids though this can lead to some weaker numbers and if a pitcher isn't walking anyone then that doesn't help. Also there are just a lot of talented pitchers right now.
Ebb and flow of the game.
no one chokes up. no one knows more than one way to swing.
Ok, maybe two guys choke up, sometimes.
but 98% of the MLB guys do not choke up when its a pitchers count.
I think that the umpiring is also a factor. in order to cut down on pitchers hitting batters, umps started giving WAAAY off the plate as a strike.
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