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Why does everyone assume UGA is in no matter what? I think they have to win the SEC
Posted on 11/24/22 at 2:55 am
Posted on 11/24/22 at 2:55 am
Everyone assumes that UGA can afford to lose in ATlanta and that the debate is between a 2 loss LSU SEC champion and a one loss USC Pac 12 champion for the last spot.
If TCU, USC, and winner of OSU/Mich win out, the debate would come down to Conference champ LSU vs conference runner-up UGA for the last spot.
LSU vs USC wouldn't even come into play. UGA would have to be picked over the team that just defeated them. And that probably wouldn't happen. UGA just doesn't have the stregnth of schedule to justify that.
UGA can't afford a loss unless TCU or USC both lose.
If TCU, USC, and winner of OSU/Mich win out, the debate would come down to Conference champ LSU vs conference runner-up UGA for the last spot.
LSU vs USC wouldn't even come into play. UGA would have to be picked over the team that just defeated them. And that probably wouldn't happen. UGA just doesn't have the stregnth of schedule to justify that.
UGA can't afford a loss unless TCU or USC both lose.
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Posted on 11/24/22 at 3:15 am to magildachunks
Because the Committee is retarded and everyone knows it.
It's previous season SEC bias.
Georgia beat Kent State 39-22. Oh yeah, Georgia played fricking Kent State.
They beat shite-arse Missouri 26-22.
They beat shite-arse Kentucky 16-6.
Why are they the defacto lock for the playoffs?
Their best win just got boat-raced by South Carolina.
It's previous season SEC bias.
Georgia beat Kent State 39-22. Oh yeah, Georgia played fricking Kent State.
They beat shite-arse Missouri 26-22.
They beat shite-arse Kentucky 16-6.
Why are they the defacto lock for the playoffs?
Their best win just got boat-raced by South Carolina.
This post was edited on 11/24/22 at 3:17 am
Posted on 11/24/22 at 3:29 am to mizzoubuckeyeiowa
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Their best win just got boat-raced by South Carolina.
That's half of their ranked wins.
And they have struggled. If Clemson is out after one loss, why would UGA be okay with one loss?
This post was edited on 11/24/22 at 3:32 am
Posted on 11/24/22 at 3:31 am to magildachunks
This is our winning argument. We need to beat them by 10+ in Atlanta.
Posted on 11/24/22 at 3:35 am to magildachunks
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Everyone assumes that UGA can afford to lose in ATlanta and that the debate is between a 2 loss LSU SEC champion and a one loss USC Pac 12 champion for the last spot.
If TCU, USC, and winner of OSU/Mich win out, the debate would come down to Conference champ LSU vs conference runner-up UGA for the last spot.
LSU vs USC wouldn't even come into play. UGA would have to be picked over the team that just defeated them. And that probably wouldn't happen. UGA just doesn't have the stregnth of schedule to justify that.
UGA can't afford a loss unless TCU or USC both lose.
Look Georgia isn't losing to Georgia Tech or to LSU!
Posted on 11/24/22 at 3:37 am to TrueLefty
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Look Georgia isn't losing to Georgia Tech or to LSU!
Let's say they do lose to LSU though (you know, the topic of the thread), do you believe they still get in the CFP, or should get in?
If so: why?
Posted on 11/24/22 at 3:37 am to mizzoubuckeyeiowa
Didn’t they beat Oregon by like 50 pts?
Realistically it’s UGA. They’re going to be favored over any team in the country and you know they’ll show up in big games. I don’t need them to prove it. Same with Alabama of the past decade.
I know if UGA walks into a neutral site game against TCU that they’ll beat them by at least 3 TDS. 2 loss Alabama would walk into the same situation and beat TCU by multiple scores.
To me it’s kinda silly but I guess it’s the system with the 4 team playoff. You have to take some people that aren’t great to appease other parts of the country and that’s why playoff games are mostly lopsided blowouts until two SEC teams meet in the championship.
USC and Oregon would be middling SEC teams at best. TCU would be in the bottom 2 or 3 teams in the SEC
Realistically it’s UGA. They’re going to be favored over any team in the country and you know they’ll show up in big games. I don’t need them to prove it. Same with Alabama of the past decade.
I know if UGA walks into a neutral site game against TCU that they’ll beat them by at least 3 TDS. 2 loss Alabama would walk into the same situation and beat TCU by multiple scores.
To me it’s kinda silly but I guess it’s the system with the 4 team playoff. You have to take some people that aren’t great to appease other parts of the country and that’s why playoff games are mostly lopsided blowouts until two SEC teams meet in the championship.
USC and Oregon would be middling SEC teams at best. TCU would be in the bottom 2 or 3 teams in the SEC
Posted on 11/24/22 at 3:41 am to Zzyzx
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Didn’t they beat Oregon by like 50 pts?
They also:
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Georgia beat Kent State 39-22. Oh yeah, Georgia played fricking Kent State.
They beat shite-arse Missouri 26-22.
They beat shite-arse Kentucky 16-6.
Which scores should we take into stronger consideration? THe one good game against a decent team they had, or the multiple struggles they had against shitty teams?
Looking at all of that: they don't seem like the "elite" team some of y'all are trying to make them out to be.
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Realistically it’s UGA. They’re going to be favored over any team in the country and you know they’ll show up in big games. I don’t need them to prove it. Same with Alabama of the past decade.
I know if UGA walks into a neutral site game against TCU that they’ll beat them by at least 3 TDS. 2 loss Alabama would walk into the same situation and beat TCU by multiple scores.
To me it’s kinda silly but I guess it’s the system with the 4 team playoff. You have to take some people that aren’t great to appease other parts of the country and that’s why playoff games are mostly lopsided blowouts until two SEC teams meet in the championship.
USC and Oregon would be middling SEC teams at best. TCU would be in the bottom 2 or 3 teams in the SEC
Ok.
But why would they automatically get into the CFP over LSU if they lost to LSU in Atlanta?
Assuming TCuU, OSU/Mich, and USC win out, you have two undefeated conference champions, a one loss conference champion, and then LSU or Uga: a 2 loss Conference champion vs a one loss conference runner up how just lost to the 2 loss conference champion.
Why is it assumed that UGA gets in no matter what if that scenario happens? That UGA can afford to lose the SECCG and still make the CFP over LSU or USC?
This post was edited on 11/24/22 at 3:45 am
Posted on 11/24/22 at 3:50 am to magildachunks
Oh, no they wouldn’t make it over LSU. IMO the SEC Champ always gets in, way too hard of a league.
In that scenario, USC is out. Weak schedule and a loss. UGA is a better team than USC. They’re a better team than an undefeated TCU imo, but the country would have even more of a fit than they already do if UGA knocked out TCU.
If LSU beat UGA (which as a huge LSU fan I don’t think will happen, but I will play the game) and all others win out - this is what the final four (5 for context) will be
1. OSU (they’re gonna trounce Mich)
2. LSU
3. TCU
4. UGA
5. USC
This is what it SHOULD be
1. OSU
2. LSU
3. UGA
4. USC
5. TCU (not as good as SC imo)
And if we weren’t worried about snowflakes getting their feelings hurt it would be
1. OSU
2. LSU
3. UGA
4. BAMA
I think those are clearly the top 4 teams in the NCAA right now. The playoff should be the 4 best teams.
In that scenario, USC is out. Weak schedule and a loss. UGA is a better team than USC. They’re a better team than an undefeated TCU imo, but the country would have even more of a fit than they already do if UGA knocked out TCU.
If LSU beat UGA (which as a huge LSU fan I don’t think will happen, but I will play the game) and all others win out - this is what the final four (5 for context) will be
1. OSU (they’re gonna trounce Mich)
2. LSU
3. TCU
4. UGA
5. USC
This is what it SHOULD be
1. OSU
2. LSU
3. UGA
4. USC
5. TCU (not as good as SC imo)
And if we weren’t worried about snowflakes getting their feelings hurt it would be
1. OSU
2. LSU
3. UGA
4. BAMA
I think those are clearly the top 4 teams in the NCAA right now. The playoff should be the 4 best teams.
Posted on 11/24/22 at 4:01 am to magildachunks
My gut is telling me UGA beats LSU. And USC loses either ND or conference championship. (I do think TCU loses to K state too which would really make things weird)
But that would mean it would be
UGA
OSU
TCU
BAMA
I guess if TCU loses along with Mich, LSU, and USC it’d bring Clemson into play? Clemson is horrible though so don’t know what would happen there
UGA
OSU
BAMA
CLEMSON
But that would mean it would be
UGA
OSU
TCU
BAMA
I guess if TCU loses along with Mich, LSU, and USC it’d bring Clemson into play? Clemson is horrible though so don’t know what would happen there
UGA
OSU
BAMA
CLEMSON
Posted on 11/24/22 at 4:14 am to magildachunks
Its just weird based on their schedule and struggling wins against dogshite teams that Georgia is getting a complete pass by the Committee.
Because they don't do their job. This is last year assumptions.
Because they don't do their job. This is last year assumptions.
Posted on 11/24/22 at 4:23 am to magildachunks
If Georgia's only loss is in the SEC championship game to a top 5 LSU team I believe that's a better loss than anyone else's. If there is a weight level to each teams loss then Georgia has to still be in as I see it.
This post was edited on 11/24/22 at 4:24 am
Posted on 11/24/22 at 5:04 am to magildachunks
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THe one good game against a decent team they had
Oregon is one of the best the PAC-12 has to offer. If they are only "decent", then frick USC getting into the playoff if they can't beat a "decent" team by a similar margin next weekend.
The Playoff isn't for "decent" teams.
Posted on 11/24/22 at 7:39 am to magildachunks
I hope UGA feels this way. It will just make them focus more on LSU.
Posted on 11/24/22 at 8:08 am to Zzyzx
quote:
And if we weren’t worried about snowflakes getting their feelings hurt it would be 1. OSU 2. LSU 3. UGA 4. BAMA I think those are clearly the top 4 teams in the NCAA right now. The playoff should be the 4 best teams.
Alabama isn’t a top 4 team.
Posted on 11/24/22 at 8:12 am to Zzyzx
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The playoff should be the 4 best teams.
It should be the best 4 teams for the entire season, not when the playoff starts.
And that isn't Alabama or LSU.
Posted on 11/24/22 at 8:22 am to magildachunks
Georgia will not go the CFP 2 years in a row, losing their conference.
Posted on 11/24/22 at 8:26 am to mizzoubuckeyeiowa
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Its just weird based on their schedule and struggling wins against dogshite teams that Georgia is getting a complete pass by the Committee.
Exactly how are they getting a pass when they haven't lost a game yet?
Posted on 11/24/22 at 8:27 am to magildachunks
I’d be willing to bet that if Georgia did lose the SEC title game, the committee would give them the benefit of doubt and still put them in because they went through the regular season undefeated and are the reigning national champs. That last part shouldn’t matter, but it will to the playoff committee.
Posted on 11/24/22 at 9:24 am to magildachunks
I don’t even know why people think UGA is some unstoppable force this year. They’ve hardly played anybody this season.
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